WinXP Home and GF4 4600 questions

Jim Z · Post by **Jim Z** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:41 am

And you guys wonder why I don't want an Athlon board...

No confidence in your ability to install the right drivers?

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:53 am

LOL Jim! That AMD761/Via 686b combo is one hell of a board. SiS, Ali and Via all have Intel motherboards out right now so what is the difference really?

Insane Morphius · Post by **Insane Morphius** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:20 am

To remove the VIA AGP drivers, shouldnt I just have to re-install all of the 4in1's except the AGP, and in that case I remove them?

I'll try that and see.

Thanks for your help guys

Insane Morphius · Post by **Insane Morphius** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:51 am

Well,

I just tried that, no luck. Still reports the same conflict

Gonna check out AMD's website

Insane Morphius · Post by **Insane Morphius** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:21 am

Predator,

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!

Your suggestion got rid of the conflicts, they are no more. I just went to AMD's site and got their driver pack, uninstalled the AGP and viola no more conflicts.

Almost home

I installed the newest leadtek driver pack from thier site, but under adaptor winXP says:

No adaptor information

Chip Type <unavailable>
DAC Type <unavailable>
Memory Size <unavailable>
Adaptor String <unavailable>
BIOS Information <unavailable>

Seems to me as if the drivers are not loading for some reason. I can delete them from add/remove so they must have been installed right????

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 9:49 pm

Yeah i found out the hard way with my 8k7a i had... the vid would work but it acted funky. After the AMD AGP driver was installed all worked just fine... Glad you got it fixed

I would just install the latest Detonators for the vid and see how those work...

Schwartz · Post by **Schwartz** » Tue Mar 26, 2002 10:08 pm

And you guys wonder why I don't want an Athlon board...

Dude be careful, I got picked on when I said one of the reasons I was going with Intel was the stability and that it just works with almost anything with no hassle.

Jim Z · Post by **Jim Z** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:28 am

Dude be careful, I got picked on when I said one of the reasons I was going with Intel was the stability and that it just works with almost anything with no hassle.

I have yet to see a BSOD from my A7M266-D. Meanwhile, my P4B266 BSODed twice yesterday due to the video driver (these are both with the Ti4400 and latest Dets). But I'm well aware stuff like this NEVER happens with Intel, so I must be imagining it.

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:33 am

I'm still waiting on my XP333 to BSOD on me... Well it did once when i went for a 1.8 Gig overclock at 2.05v's on a 1700+(1.46 Ghz... It did make it to XP but not for long....lol... Overclocked to 1.66 1.85v's has yet to glitch just once and been running for a week straight right now without a reboot...

Schwartz · Post by **Schwartz** » Wed Mar 27, 2002 11:03 pm

But I'm well aware stuff like this NEVER happens with Intel, so I must be imagining it.

Never said that, but when you step back and look at both sides I think they both earned their reps. I'm not saying that non Intel stuff hasn't improved either.

Insane Morphius · Post by **Insane Morphius** » Fri Mar 29, 2002 2:17 am

Finally got her working,

Only took a switch to a new dang motherboard..... got the MSI KT3 Ultra ARU

VidmanII · Post by **VidmanII** » Sat Mar 30, 2002 10:12 am

Originally posted by Schwartz

Never said that, but when you step back and look at both sides I think they both earned their reps. I'm not saying that non Intel stuff hasn't improved either.

Some funny stuff here. The age old debate. I'm happy to have a choice between the two. I currrently use AMD because the P4's were introduced as nothing more than Intel's desire to say they had recaptured the clock speed title. Problem there tho was that as far as instructions per clock cycle go, the P4's couldn't even outperform a Morgan core Duron, let alone a P3, AMD T-Bird or XP. Add to that, that RDRAM was expensive as hell and AMD's paired with DDR ram were faster and less expensive ( read: family man who doesn't have a king's ramsom for a PC budget ). Let's face it, the Willamette P4/RDRAM combo wasn't any ground breaking technology when you consider what a nice chip the P3's were. I had a P3 700e that did 1011 GHz and ran like a champ for several months so it's not like I'm averse to playing on both sides of the fence. Once things went over a Gig tho, it was obvious that Intel was swimming upstream.

I haven't had any significant issues with setting up numerous OCed and/or "to spec" AMD rigs for myself or others I've built them for. It helps to use the right drivers as Predator mentioned. To make blanket statements saying one is better than the other without backing it up with facts tho is silly and doesn't help anyone. That being said, I've seen threads with Schwartzy talkin' about his rig and some pics of his dually setup as well and it looks like he's got a kick ass rig to say the least. Nuthin' wrong with that and God bless him. Connversely tho, it's not impossible, or difficult to put together an AMD rig of similar capabilities if one is familiar with the correct way of configuring them. So what's not to like?

I'm hearing that these 1.6a Northwood's seem to be a nice play, what with their OCing headroom and am happy that Intel does seem to indeed be making some strides with the .13 fab chips and getting back in the game with regards to the enthusiast sector. You're still going to have be hitting upwards of 2.2 GHz with one tho to run in the same league as an AMD XP @ 1.7 GHz. So to me anyway, they still have some ground to make up before I'd consider the switch back to Chipzilla. You're always going to have cycles where AMD or Intel has what's perceived as the latest and greatest. The key is to know enough about both of them to be able to make an intelligent choice as to WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU!

Choice is good. It keeps the prices down and allows us to have these amusing threads.

It's nice to have a choice these days and whatever you want is what you should buy.

Schwartz · Post by **Schwartz** » Sat Mar 30, 2002 4:36 pm

Schwartzy talkin' about his rig and some pics of his dually setup

I have never spoke of a dual cpu setup that I know of, I don't have one myself. Although I do quite favor my home PC.

Now don't pass out when you read this because I know a lot of times I sound like I am for Intel only but... At work I was the decision maker for a couple of servers. I was allowed to buy two servers. You know what I got?

Two of these pretty much loaded.

VidmanII · Post by **VidmanII** » Sat Mar 30, 2002 10:20 pm

I was talkin' about your P4 based dual monitor rig. Not dual cpu. Sorry for not being clear.

Thought I saw that in a Cheers thread awhile back or maybe in here "General Hdware". Dunno but it looked pretty nice.

Schwartz · Post by **Schwartz** » Mon Apr 01, 2002 12:17 am

I was talkin' about your P4 based dual monitor rig. Not dual cpu. Sorry for not being clear.

Oh, I was thinking dual CPU. If I was running dual CPU rest assured it would be Athlon based.

Dunno but it looked pretty nice.

Thanks, Yeah, dual LCD.

I've been happy with the Viewsonic.