Well, @Home pulled the proxy so the internet wouldn't work. Anytime you tried connecting through it, it gave you a swift 500 and you were stuck. My Brother and I thought we lost total internet access, since the "gateway" was down when you run the diagnostic tool. But then I noticed F@H connected for more units with no issues. I removed the proxy and everything works just fine.....a little bit slower, but totally fine.
Slugbait.....it's been 7 days.....e-mail him and ask where your stuff is. Ask for tracking numbers as proof. (no logical seller would send something without tracking numbers). Don't ask for the money back.......yet. Now, the "e check" deal means he's waiting for the money in his paypal account to get directly deposited to his checking account so he can use it to send your stuff......not a common practice amoung regular sellers. Alot of people that have PayPal have the Debit Card, which is so much easier and lets you spend the money as soon as it is sent. (I have used it for several sales I made on ebay.) Check and see what timeframe was promised in the auction, if it says "will ship within 3 days of when money is recieved".....he needs to ship it ASAP.
@Home users - a quick heads up!
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I am still up, but I am not sure for how long.
I am sure negotiations are continuing, and hopefully Excite will realize they don't want to piss off 4.1 million subscribers. If they close down, I forsee a class-action suit of some sort.
Insight, my cable co, has offered to pay for dial-ups if our connect goes down. Since the installation fee is something like $150, I might take up the offer. It will suck to be paying $60 for dial-up, but if I cancel my account, I will have to pay the $150 install fee all over again. So they would have to be down for 4 months in order for it to bge cheaper for me to cancel and resubscribe.
I am sure negotiations are continuing, and hopefully Excite will realize they don't want to piss off 4.1 million subscribers. If they close down, I forsee a class-action suit of some sort.
Insight, my cable co, has offered to pay for dial-ups if our connect goes down. Since the installation fee is something like $150, I might take up the offer. It will suck to be paying $60 for dial-up, but if I cancel my account, I will have to pay the $150 install fee all over again. So they would have to be down for 4 months in order for it to bge cheaper for me to cancel and resubscribe.
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im out...back on dial up for me presently. ASSHOLES! Now why the hell couldnt the goverment step in on this one? I dont see how what they are doing is legal.
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Well I'll tell you, however this works out, I GUARANTEE I'm going to switch to DSL if it's ever offered here.
Here's why. Cable TV is not considered a critical service so the a-holes can cut us off any time (even if you're using cable internet access for business). DSL is considered a phone service and like telephone is considered a critical service.
I realize this isn't Comcast's fault, but they sold me a service - which I use for business as well as pleasure - with a guarantee that it was as reliable as DSL. Well, that's BS.
If a phone company told 4 MILLION residential and business customers that:
"Your phone service may be cut off for an unknown period of time sometime tomorrow, but we're working to implement a backup system in the next few months - oh and here's a web site listing the closest payphones in your area."
People would be rioting in the streets and congress would be having hearings and SOMEBODY would be under indictment.
I have business clients who RELY on Internet access or their business is dead, and they're all chewing their nails over this. Some can get DSL, but it''l take a week or more to install. Some will have to get dialups and may need to install modems and spare lines.
I can assure you that I will be recommending DSL over cable to my clients whenever possible from now on - no matter how F@CKED up Sprint is around here.
Here's why. Cable TV is not considered a critical service so the a-holes can cut us off any time (even if you're using cable internet access for business). DSL is considered a phone service and like telephone is considered a critical service.
I realize this isn't Comcast's fault, but they sold me a service - which I use for business as well as pleasure - with a guarantee that it was as reliable as DSL. Well, that's BS.
If a phone company told 4 MILLION residential and business customers that:
"Your phone service may be cut off for an unknown period of time sometime tomorrow, but we're working to implement a backup system in the next few months - oh and here's a web site listing the closest payphones in your area."
People would be rioting in the streets and congress would be having hearings and SOMEBODY would be under indictment.
I have business clients who RELY on Internet access or their business is dead, and they're all chewing their nails over this. Some can get DSL, but it''l take a week or more to install. Some will have to get dialups and may need to install modems and spare lines.
I can assure you that I will be recommending DSL over cable to my clients whenever possible from now on - no matter how F@CKED up Sprint is around here.
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It looks like the Illinois incident is a technical goof. @home is apparantly NOT going down, at least not for the present.
Oh, and FP made an excellent point. If this were something that non-geeks could relate to better, the situation NEVER would have happened.Saturday, December 1, 2001
Here is the most recent update on the Excite@Home situation:
Insight, along with other cable operators, is currently in the tail end of positive negotiations with @Home. At this time, we fully expect to maintain connectivity for our Insight@Home customer base.
We recognize that certain communities in our Central Illinois service areas have seen an interruption in service this morning due to an @Home error. We are working diligently to correct this issue and expect full service to be restored today. We apologize to these customers for any inconvenience this has caused.
Thank you for your continued patience as we work through this issue.
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well as long as att gets there own network up andgoing here there is NO way Ill be changing. DSL is not worth it. and isnt aviable here eithor.
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Just read this at Yahoo:
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Judge Thomas Carlson of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in San Francisco gave it permission to shut down after midnight (0800 GMT) on Saturday.
AT&T owns about 23 percent of Excite and wants to buy the remaining 77 percent for $307 million, which bondholders say is not enough to pay off Excite's debts.
Excite has about 45 percent of the cable modem users in North America, and other high-speed services have begun offering deals to defectors.
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AHH sheet ! ya mean we still could be shut down tonight?? I thought last night was go or no go.
Rats! I think I threw my $30 Lucent winmodem away.. I'd better check! Never burn bridges behind ya...
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Judge Thomas Carlson of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in San Francisco gave it permission to shut down after midnight (0800 GMT) on Saturday.
AT&T owns about 23 percent of Excite and wants to buy the remaining 77 percent for $307 million, which bondholders say is not enough to pay off Excite's debts.
Excite has about 45 percent of the cable modem users in North America, and other high-speed services have begun offering deals to defectors.
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AHH sheet ! ya mean we still could be shut down tonight?? I thought last night was go or no go.
Rats! I think I threw my $30 Lucent winmodem away.. I'd better check! Never burn bridges behind ya...
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Well, no access today (I'm at work right now). I made a call to AT&T's automated phone system, and it said new access would be up in about three days, and I would be credited two days for each day I don't have service.
I punched the option at the end of the automated explanation to talk to a customer rep, and <click> was promptly disconnected...they aren't talking to customers.
And the thing that really pisses me off: AT&T is a real ISP with something called "WorldNet" for dial-ups...but they apparently didn't even THINK that their @Home customers might still want 'net access and offer their other service as an alternative while their broadband is sucking ether. C'mon, how many computers over the last seven years has shipped without a modem built in? Heck, my old IBM PS/1 486 SX/25 had a blazing-fast 2400 baud modem pre-installed.
I'm willing to wager that AT&T...even tho' they'll save millions each month by not having to pay Excite anymore...is going to cry about how much their own broadband system is costing them, and must pass that expense on to their customers.
Get this: instead of the one-syllable word of "home" to tell someone my email addy, I'm going to have to use FIVE syllables. That alone might drive me to the competition. It's going to be yourname@attbi.com. "Dee Eye?" someone asks...no, BEE eye, as in boy. I can see the confusion happening already...
I punched the option at the end of the automated explanation to talk to a customer rep, and <click> was promptly disconnected...they aren't talking to customers.
And the thing that really pisses me off: AT&T is a real ISP with something called "WorldNet" for dial-ups...but they apparently didn't even THINK that their @Home customers might still want 'net access and offer their other service as an alternative while their broadband is sucking ether. C'mon, how many computers over the last seven years has shipped without a modem built in? Heck, my old IBM PS/1 486 SX/25 had a blazing-fast 2400 baud modem pre-installed.
I'm willing to wager that AT&T...even tho' they'll save millions each month by not having to pay Excite anymore...is going to cry about how much their own broadband system is costing them, and must pass that expense on to their customers.
Get this: instead of the one-syllable word of "home" to tell someone my email addy, I'm going to have to use FIVE syllables. That alone might drive me to the competition. It's going to be yourname@attbi.com. "Dee Eye?" someone asks...no, BEE eye, as in boy. I can see the confusion happening already...
Just lovely...
Well, I woke up today with the cable dead, though the modem is nominal. According to this story, the outage here in Michigan may be network related and the Tech Support line says that there may be outages for us and that they're working on it. (Yeah, right...but it COULD be a FUBARed DHCP and DNS server.)
I had to call Earthlink to get current dial-up numbers and my expensive back-up plan is paying off now, but this is just pathetic.
I mentioned this to co-workers and many news articles have used the phrase that this is "a game of chicken" with US caught in the crossfire. this other C|Net story mentions that the mutual pooch-screwing that going on may be from AT&T trying to assrape Excite:
"AT&T's bid--as well as the termination of its service to customers--is rife with controversy. Many Excite@Home shareholders and creditors say the company's cable assets are worth vastly more than $307 million--some insisting that fair market value is as high as $1 billion. AT&T may be terminating its service in order to make customers defect--a move that would devalue Excite@Home and make AT&T's $307 million bid seem more appealing, critics say."
That's really f*cking smart - That would be like burning down the house you want to buy to be able to say to the sellers, "Hey, the house is a charred ruin, you can't get full price for this." Sure, you get the house for cheap, but it's destroyed, so what have you won?
If people bail on cable for DSL, how are they gonna be lured back? What? Promises of reliable service? HA!!! People will be like, "You guys f*cked us once already. Why believe you now?!?"
DSL is too expensive, too slow and a friggin' hassle. With only a couple of exceptions, I've been very happy with my cable for 2-1/2 years and I'm only having troubles now because the Big Business boys can't figure out that the CUSTOMERS ARE GETTING HURT!!!
What makes this possible is the total lack of choice in our options, even if we HAVE options. Look at Corn - I immortalized his lack of ANY broadband options on the back of our CD! He has a big, new house and is on dial-up because the telcos and others just can't get their heads around the concept of PEOPLE WANT REASONABLY-PRICED AND RELIABLE BROADBAND ACCESS!!! Wired had a good article about how they'd blown this vital service and it didn't look like things were going to get better soon, due to the whole dot-bomb mess. If you buy a GM car and it sucks, you can buy a Ford or Chrysler next time. When your BB ISP folds, you may not have ANY alternatives OR you have a choice of an exhorbidantly priced BB or cheap dial-up. Heads-you lose, tails-you lose.
The one player who should be DEMANDING that broadband be preserved is Micro$oft! Their whole .NET scheme is going to rely on LARGE NUMBERS of people and businesses connected to the Net with always-on connections. If Netizens are cast back into the Digital Stone Age, it's gonna screw up "Bill & Steve's Excellent Ideas" and they don't sit around long when there's money being lost, ya dig?
I had to call Earthlink to get current dial-up numbers and my expensive back-up plan is paying off now, but this is just pathetic.
I mentioned this to co-workers and many news articles have used the phrase that this is "a game of chicken" with US caught in the crossfire. this other C|Net story mentions that the mutual pooch-screwing that going on may be from AT&T trying to assrape Excite:
"AT&T's bid--as well as the termination of its service to customers--is rife with controversy. Many Excite@Home shareholders and creditors say the company's cable assets are worth vastly more than $307 million--some insisting that fair market value is as high as $1 billion. AT&T may be terminating its service in order to make customers defect--a move that would devalue Excite@Home and make AT&T's $307 million bid seem more appealing, critics say."
That's really f*cking smart - That would be like burning down the house you want to buy to be able to say to the sellers, "Hey, the house is a charred ruin, you can't get full price for this." Sure, you get the house for cheap, but it's destroyed, so what have you won?
If people bail on cable for DSL, how are they gonna be lured back? What? Promises of reliable service? HA!!! People will be like, "You guys f*cked us once already. Why believe you now?!?"
DSL is too expensive, too slow and a friggin' hassle. With only a couple of exceptions, I've been very happy with my cable for 2-1/2 years and I'm only having troubles now because the Big Business boys can't figure out that the CUSTOMERS ARE GETTING HURT!!!
What makes this possible is the total lack of choice in our options, even if we HAVE options. Look at Corn - I immortalized his lack of ANY broadband options on the back of our CD! He has a big, new house and is on dial-up because the telcos and others just can't get their heads around the concept of PEOPLE WANT REASONABLY-PRICED AND RELIABLE BROADBAND ACCESS!!! Wired had a good article about how they'd blown this vital service and it didn't look like things were going to get better soon, due to the whole dot-bomb mess. If you buy a GM car and it sucks, you can buy a Ford or Chrysler next time. When your BB ISP folds, you may not have ANY alternatives OR you have a choice of an exhorbidantly priced BB or cheap dial-up. Heads-you lose, tails-you lose.
The one player who should be DEMANDING that broadband be preserved is Micro$oft! Their whole .NET scheme is going to rely on LARGE NUMBERS of people and businesses connected to the Net with always-on connections. If Netizens are cast back into the Digital Stone Age, it's gonna screw up "Bill & Steve's Excellent Ideas" and they don't sit around long when there's money being lost, ya dig?
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