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Win NT Install question....

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Hey :)

I just tried installing Win NT for the first time, on an old HD, just for the heck of it. I think there might be sth wrong with my partition or the HD but I'm not sure, since I never did this before, here's the prob:

I fdisked and formatted a caviar 2 gig drive to one system disk, on partition.

Booted with boot floppy and CD ROM support and started installation with winnt.exe

Went past creating the 3 floppies and it started copying the files from CD to HD. This took 2 hours! There already I thought sth was wrong.

Then it continued the installation, reboot with setup floppy inserted, hardware detection and it doesn't detect my CD ROM, only the HD. I go to manual configuration and add the CD ROM.

Reboot again and the dumbass tells me that it can't find the partition it was supposed to install NT on and that at an earlier stage during the installation I should have specified that. All I can do is exit by pressing F3.....doh!

Now I started the installation program again and it's deleting previous temporary files....has been doing so for the last 45 mins....again I'm thinking that maybe the disk is buggered, why else would copy/paste/delete processes take that long...

Any ideas to what I'm doing wrong here?

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yeah...

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sounds like you got a bad disk.

I'd go ahead and format the disk (nt will convert it to ntfs later). Copy the i386 folder to your hard drive and try running the installation from there.

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You've created the three installation diskettes right? You DO NOT install NT from a boot disk - you MUST install it by booting with the first installation diskette (it'll prompt you for the other two).

Or, if your system supports it, you can boot from the CD and it'll auto-install.
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old fart?!?!

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fp recheck your switches. copy the i386 folder to the drive and use winnt /b.
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Donkey: That's not exactly a recommended installation method. There's some potential pitfalls.
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What version of NT are you installing ? Is your hard drive FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS ? I don't think NT4.0 will work on FAT32.
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Post by KiLLerCloWn »

Thanks all :)

Yeah, I did the 3 installation disks and booted with the NT setup diskette...

The drive is fat32 but I thought NT formats in NTFS automatically during setup...how else can I format the frive to NTFS?

I tried again and got the same result: Can't find the partition it's supposed to install on...doh...

Ah well, I won't bother then, I just wanted to do this for a laugh, I won't spend my spare time with this cr@p. If it doesn't want to install, well, it won't get installed then...NEXT....

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converting to ntfs

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nt won't install to to fat32. but it auto installs to fat 16 then converts to ntfs after the first reboot. Plus to FP I was trying to help determine if the drive was bad. I've used the winnt /b feature and it works with no prob's. I was just trying to prove to FP that you don't have to use the 3 boot disk like he was saying....
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hold on

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secondly, I do hp/ux admin work for bellsouth and only help the nt guy's occasionly. I truly question the nt knowledge of some members of this forum when installation question's are answered incorrectly....
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Fdisk the drive to FAT16, then install NT and convert to NTFS.
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I've used the winnt /b feature and it works with no prob's. I was just trying to prove to FP that you don't have to use the 3 boot disk like he was saying....
Actually, I've found that if you boot off the CD and not the Floppies that it won't properly load some scsi cards(with the F6 feature) and won't allow you to proceed with the install. You must boot from the floppies to get around that.

Also, just start with the drive un-fdisked. In the install you can create a partition and format it. If you had it as FAT32 it won't be able to convert it to NTFS. It has to start as FAT16. Another little known fact is that even tho the limit of a FAT16 partition is 2gb using FDISK, if you use the WinNT install program to create the partition, you can create and use up to a 4gb FAT16 partition(readable by WinNT4 only, and prob win2k).
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holy oh my goodness

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does anyone know what the hell he is talking about....I've installed NT booting off the cd, with the 3 floppies and using the /b method. Will an op please ban me from this forum of idiots!!! I don't even know why I come back here.....

As per your request you are locked out. You would have regardless of your request since you were warned of this attitude before. Yet you persist.

Go have some hay and chill.

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does anyone know what the hell he is talking about....I've installed NT booting off the cd, with the 3 floppies and using the /b method. Will an op please ban me from this forum of idiots!!! I don't even know why I come back here....
I've installed NT using all three of the same methods you are talking about too. I was just stating that in the past when I used the boot from CD method and had to hit F6 to load drivers for a scsi card that they wouldn't load properly and find the hdd.... I had to then boot off the three floppies so that the scsi card drivers would load correctly and find the hdd to install too. Other than that, yes, booting off the CD works fine.
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secondly, I do hp/ux admin work for bellsouth and only help the nt guy's occasionly. I truly question the nt knowledge of some members of this forum when installation question's are answered incorrectly....
I just realized you posted this... I must have missed it to begin with. It figures you're a Unix admin. Those dopes seem to think they know everything when in fact they don't know much at all. And btw, Buh bye. ;)
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I'm a Windows/DOS service tech and small business server administrator, but I sometimes watch over the shoulders of 747 pilots when I fly First Class so I know what I'm saying when I tell you that you should not be setting the flaps to 45 degrees when taking off from Denver International... Oh, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night! ;)


KAKAROT: That's interesting about the CD boot. I've rarely done an NT install from CD (call me old fashioned).
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