Attention Please: No more Dealers

GreenTurtle · Post by **GreenTurtle** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 12:56 pm

I remember bummers, haven't seen him around for awhile, but damn did he have some awesome prices on BX and Slot-A motherboards.

pca mod · Post by **pca mod** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 1:03 pm

I think some of you are focussing on the legal aspect a little too much. It is one aspect, but not the main motivating factor that led to this decision. The fact is that the boards were starting to look like havens for dealers, and not for the intended target: <b>the individual</b>.

Let's not discuss what's legal and what's not, since it really doesn't matter in this case. What we are here for (and always have stood for) is for the individual selling of parts, new and used.

The point is to stop dealers, NOT the individual that once in a while gets a couple of hard drives at an awesome price and then tries to sell them at market value (or trade for another item of the same market value). If you read the first post in this thread you will see what makes you a dealer, that clearly excludes an individual that once in a while gets a great deal on some items.

The board is also not going just die from not allowing dealers, that is taking the importance of the dealers too far. Besides, if that is true than that is a sad testimonial on how far we have let dealers affect the board to begin with right?

A lot of individuals buy a video/sound card, sell their old one on the board to make up for the $$$ they just spent, then within a week decide that they don't really like it as much as they thought, and sell the new one just to get another video/sound card (which often is the same video/sound card as the one they just sold on the board last week...

). This scenario happens a lot, and if you think about it that one situation alone means that 3 transactions with hardware are happening on the board (sell old stuff, sell new stuff, and buy old stuff again).

Now if that individual has continual access to a ton of drives and then sets up a dealer-style thread (indicating that they simply use the forum to sell and make $$$ off the members by reselling a lot of parts for profit), that is a dealer. This is not that limiting unless you make a regular income (and expect an income) from your sales here. Everyone of us get deals sometimes, but we don't make a living from it.

The For Sale forum is and never was meant for that style of dealer threads, it was always intended for individuals selling and trading their personal items.

One thing on bonkers: he is not banned, he had agreed to some terms in his for sale threads and didn't stick to the terms of that deal several times - simple as that, and he knows that too. It was related to the frequent price changing within existing sale threads, sometimes up/sometimes down.

[Edited by pca mod on 03-15-2001 at 01:22 PM]

fobbman · Post by **fobbman** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 1:38 pm

It's a simple concept really. If you are going out and buying stuff for the sole reason of turning around and selling it on the boards (ESPECIALLY when it's in quantity) then you are pretty much a dealer.

StevenT · Post by **StevenT** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 2:09 pm

Sounds good to me!

BTW blade, is your quote "I'm your Huckleberry" from Tombstone? I know that is said several times in that movie

wvjohn · Post by **wvjohn** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 2:39 pm

one of the best roles this bad boy ever had

Snelski · Post by **Snelski** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 3:46 pm

"Ain't she a daisy?"

Aaahhhh, one of the best movies made

. Yep, can't think of a better role than that for Val Kilmer - that is a classic.

blade · Post by **blade** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 4:05 pm

What makes you say that Steve?

I love that movie, one of da best 4 sure.

And it's "Isn't that a daisy" and "You're no daisy, you're no daisy at all!" hehe

StevenT · Post by **StevenT** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 5:08 pm

Gawd I love the jumping faces smilies

I was positive it was Tombstone, that movie is my fave as well boys, Doc Holliday is played amazingly well by Mr. Kilmer.

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 5:44 pm

And when he shoots Johnny Ringo and then walks around him as he is dying and tells him he was too high strung to carry on, man I loved that. VK was also most excellent as Mad Mardigan in Willow, that look as he is battling the two headed moat monster and is about to jump back in the fray again says "Man what a day this is turning out to be" without saying a word. Check it out sometime.

Gumby · Post by **Gumby** » Thu Mar 15, 2001 11:42 pm

OK Here's a question then. I am in a group buy of some of the equipment from a place I used to work at.

We will end up getting extra parts, PC's, etc. If I decide to sell/trade on the board in this case...am I a dealer?

I am making a large purchase for some of the equipment but with the knowledge that some of the stuff I just won't want, and I had figured that here is a good place to dispose of it.

I figure I would ask it here and get a proper answer than try and get my a$$ burnt for being an idiot.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:14 am

Um, I am pretty sure that falls under the "buying just the pure intent to sell" category.

compuwiz1 · Post by **compuwiz1** » Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:42 am

Hella ya, good idea.

Get's rid of those predatory bastards that want to play "let's go in and dump the price so nobody can get fair market and screw up the good guys too". At the price of me not being able to do it anymore, I am glad it effected the the players whom I may be speaking of too.

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Fri Mar 16, 2001 6:29 am

Gumby I personally feel that another prerequisite of a dealer is that they do these sales on a regular and ongoing basis. If this is a one time thing or a once a year type thing I don't feel it is a dealer type buy. My .02 centavos worth.

bighammer · Post by **bighammer** » Fri Mar 16, 2001 7:04 am

That's the way I understood it Mr Hammer1 sir.
I think everyone is a little touchy about the wording when all they are trying to do is make this a little less like a computer show, and more like a swap meet as it always was in the past

blade · Post by **blade** » Fri Mar 16, 2001 8:05 am

das da fact jack..errr.bighammer and hammer.

When one gets a deal like Gumby at times I think that is ok. It's when one has things always available and one who buys many things to specifically sell on the forums, they are a dealer. Obviously this will need to be re-defined as we go along so no one will try to skirt the policy.

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