Attention Please: No more Dealers

Post by **pca admin** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:43 pm

The ones with an ad up now(AS OF 3/14/01) can keep their same ad going for up to a week longer. But no new dealer type threads. We just want the trading forum to go back to the ones who the for sale forums were originally intended, the regular individuals who wish to sell their items. And not the ones who "only" post an ad to sell their wares like a dealer and don't add anything else to the forum.

You are a dealer if:

<li>Anyone who can sell these items at any time
<li>Anyone who has to take orders before obtaining the items
<li>Anyone who has continual supplies of same items and depends on the sale of these items as a regular income stream
<li>Anyone who has a store front as a dealer
<li>Anyone who has a website like a dealer
<li>Anyone who has a reseller license to sell these items

Just because you have no website or store doesn't mean you are no dealer. Read the above for why.

These rules may have to be redefined as we go and sometimes on a case to case basis since some will always try to work around rules.

This decision has been coming for some time. There have been increasing amounts of dealers selling their wares on every For Sale forum at most BBS sites. There are legal aspects that many do not think about, but PCA absolutely must. There have also been some recent concerns about infighting, competition, and frequent price changing in existing for sale threads. Not to mention that this is hurting some of the very individuals that this forum was created for.

The For Sale forum has always been intended for use of private individuals that have items for sale. These items are mostly produced because of attempts to upgrade, or trade for other parts needed to build and maintain their individual PCs. It was never intended as a forum for dealers to take advantage of the For Sale forums in order to circumvent legitimate business laws and regulations.

Thank You

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:48 pm

whats this mean? There are legal aspects that many do not think about, but PCA absolutely must. ?

Greg

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Greg, it means that if something goes wrong with these dealers it will affect a ton of people - not just one or two. In the past trying to make traders make good on their deals usually meant doing this for a few traders, and helping them nail the culprits legally. If this happens (and we've already seen this once mind you) with one of the dealers, it becomes an impossible mess to clean up for MANY of our members.

Since we know this to be a possibility with the increasing amount of dealers on the scene, it would be highly irresponsible of us to let these threads continue. We simply do not have the resources to ensure the safest possible trading with this type of activity. Not all of you are going to agree, but if you think about it this only makes sense. It has simply gotten out of hand and something had to be done - legal or for the principles that this forum stand for, take your pick.

Hope you understand,

pca mod

[Edited by pca mod on 03-14-2001 at 06:13 PM]

pidge · Post by **pidge** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:15 pm

That makes perfect sense.

Lawton · Post by **Lawton** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:17 pm

Yeah, I think he's talking about issues such as avoiding tax on inventory, and other ways that dealer inventory is lowered/eliminated through non-trackable means, sales tax evasion, etc., BBS's like this can easily become a "pressure release valve" that "unscrupulous," creative, & inventive liscensed resellers can use to dodge their civic responsibilities.

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:25 pm

Hay...I want my sig back U THIEFing mod!

Got ya. makes sence 2 me.

Greg

blade · Post by **blade** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:34 pm

Makes sense to me too.

Snelski · Post by **Snelski** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:42 pm

Hahaha, he took your sig away!!!!!!!!!

Serves you right for questioning da man!!!

And ummm, it makes total sense to me too

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nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 6:47 pm

I would hope it made sense 2 U Snelski. if U need a Little more clearification on it shut up and dont ask questions U Sheeple!

we dont like free thinking around here!

Greg

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 7:10 pm

This is what happens when I go to work for a day, every damned thing changes. I uhmmm go with it too???

Snelski · Post by **Snelski** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 7:13 pm

Hammer, be careful for saying uhmmmm...Nexus is not in a good mood I guess

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bighammer · Post by **bighammer** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 7:15 pm

It'll put a little damper on some guys but in the true sense of these boards, dealers shouldn't be here anyway.
I'm going to kill myself when I see an awesome deal on another board by a dealer though

UNKNOWNDUDE · Post by **UNKNOWNDUDE** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 7:35 pm

if bonkers not allowed to sale since he has always same stuff available I assume this one falls under same category

http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/showthr ... genumber=2

blade · Post by **blade** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 7:42 pm

Unknowndude, Read the first paragraph on the first post. It says "The ones with an ad up now can keep their same ad going for up to a week longer".

bonkers is no longer allowed to have dealer type threads. He had his chance and didn't stick to agreements. So let it rest, please.

That doesn't make him a bad trader of course.

renovation · Post by **renovation** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 8:10 pm

you are a dealer if you buy stuff with the intent to sell it YOUR A DEALER ITS THAT PLAIN GUYS & GALS !

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Wed Mar 14, 2001 10:00 pm

I think its a good idea but in the same time where am i suppose to get those awesome deals on ram and overclocked CPU's!! I see where PCA is coming from there are too many dealers popping up. Guess there just gonna have to keep things low key huh!