Computer Parts, Games, DVD's, ex-girfriends..well you get the idea. No dealers, referral links, spam, or auctions. Please be sure your email shows in your profile and to post a price when selling.
Basically, if one doesn't own it or have the items in their possession then they can't sell it. Please don't try to circumvent these rules by appearing with interest checks for group buys, because they will be promptly shut down.
The problem is that we cannot control group buys if they go bad, as opposed to a single trade going sour. That doesn't mean that others had bad intentions, only that they are a disaster waiting to happen. Eventually someone will get the idea that it's a great way to make easy money and will collect the $$$ and then dissappear. This is just asking for trouble and we don't need anymore than we already get .
Hope you all understand, but this is all just based on common sense. Please bump this thread for others to see.
heat, that would not be fair at all to the other traders. It has to include all traders, without favoritism. The fact is that this opens the door for potential ripoffs and that is not something that we can allow here. It has nothing to do with you or anyone else that has good intentions, but there have already been some very disturbing incidents with group buys that make this necessary. It is PCA's responsibility to keep this forum as safe as possible, and group buys are a risky proposition to begin with.
You also don't have to look that far to see some of those established traders doing some questionable deals.
I really hope you understand that this is not being enforced to aggrevate people, only to protect everyone. It is too easy to get ripped off that way by someone that simply doesn't care.
I agree with the opposition of group buy. It will be really hard to deal with a situation if someone intends to rip-off. There will be a lot of blaming and finger pointing if something happens. We certainly don’t need that sort of problems here. Personally, I will never participate in any group buys because the potential for rip-off is much higher. You are paying someone for a merchandize that's not in the hand of the seller. Sound very risky to me.
<a href="mailto:surelock3864@gmail.com">Drop Me a Line</a></br><a href="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php4?id=32" target="_blank"></a></br>Heatware Refs</br>
<p>
I've never participated in a group buy b4 because its never THAT good of a deal in the first place. And its just way too much hassle to deal with(legit or not). Good policy.
"Why build only one when you can build two for twice the price?"
<a href="mailto:murphy@excaltech.com">Email</a>
<a target=NEW href="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=377">Heatware evals</a>
I hate to go against the "big guy" here, but isn't it the <b>USERS</b> choice wheather to participate in a group buy or not? I know you're just tryin' to look out for us, but I think I speak for some when I say it's kinda restrictive.
I'm only speaking because they recently did this at Anandtech and I was kinda laughing and sayin' how much crap it is. Now I see it here, too and it just kinda bothers me. Just me thoughts though..............
[align=center]<img src=http://i54.tinypic.com/j9tydf.gif> <i> My get up and go must have got up and went. </i>[/align]
The plain and simple fact is no matter what kind of disclaimer you put on it, we at PCA feel it is our duty to safeguard our traders and be the safest place on the internet to do business. As is evident with Biogate we take care of our own as well as those stanks that wander in looking for easy pickings, and we even watch out for the folks who don't want us watching out for them, because when it all comes down to it this is our house and we gotta clean it as we see fit. I can see your point lil brother but this is in place to protect not only the folks buying into the group trades but the folks that do the the group buys as well. It is just too easy to screw up and have a half dozen folks out their money.
<a href="mailto:surelock3864@gmail.com">Drop Me a Line</a></br><a href="http://www.heatware.com/eval.php4?id=32" target="_blank"></a></br>Heatware Refs</br>
<p>
I think it's a good idea not to have them. I don't participate, because as someone mentioned, they are usually not that good.
we have all dealt with each other here, so you(a vague reference to the group and not to any one person) probably have an address book full of traders/buyers/sellers. If you want to do a group buy, send out an email instead.
i hate to go against the grain here, but i am with Heat and hipnotic_tranz. i think it's a freedom we should have, and we should be able to use it at our discretion, but like i said it's just my opinion, i may not agree with the mod's decision to ban group buys but i will RESPECT it.. (hence the abandonment of my foakley posts)
This really isn't up for any discussion guys, it's been decided that it is not good for PCA and the rule is now in place. You guys aren't the ones that have to clean up the carnage that is left if and when one of these go bad, then the finger-pointing starts with us. Who's to say that someone like Puto doesn't start one of these and then screws everyone over? That seems pretty likely to me and that would look really bad for us, to allow such a thing to happen.
I understand that you're dissappointed, but this is the way it is right now. PCA is not going to willingly risk the safety of our members. If we feel that there is a big enough risk that we can foresee trouble coming, we're not going to wait for it to happen and then try to patch the problem. The whole idea of this forum is that we watch out for each other, and that's what this rule is about.
.
