Murder registry

[renovation]

this is one law that every state needs - ID sure want to know if i had a convicted killer living near me.
Much like the state’s sex offender registry, House Bill 263 requires convicted murderers to register when they are released from prison.

The registry will ensure Illinoisans know where people convicted of first-degree murder are residing once they are freed. Registration would be required for a 10-year period.



Read more: http://www.pantagraph.com/news/state-an ... z1iDgmkIZr

[CaterpillarAssassin]

Of course I would want to know where they are living. I think this is just as essential as the sex offender registry.

The question is why are first degree murderers being released in the first place??

[RubberDuckie]

Personally I disagree with registered anything (sex offenders or murderers). We are past the days of the scarlett letter.

If an offender has done the time then they are done. I see no reason to brand someone if they have 'paid their debt'.

The better solution would be to have be debt high enough the crime is never committed in the first place. By having a registery you subject people to ridicule, and mob justice for a crime they have paid for by prison term.

Now I do not have any problems with a registery for someone on parole as their debt is not yet paid.


Whats the next step? Having markings on cars of people who have numerous speeding tickets? I would like to know who is a bad driver on the streets. It would be nice for me to know if someone driving next to me had more then 4 speeding tickets in their life. Then I could change lanes and avoid that person. But is that right as a society?

Just my opinion

[EvilHorace]

The sex offender registry makes sense to me because supposedly, that's a thing that if you're a sex offender, you're not likely to ever be 100% "cured" and so if you're a family with kids, you might want to know if that sex offender lives nearby.
Now murder is different. Most murders are not a random act committed to perfect strangers. Most know their victims and there are usually reasons why that person murders another, unlike a sex offender who maybe just has urges for example.
A guy who murders his ex-wife and is later released isn't likely to repeat that again. Many other murders are drug related, like in "da-hood". All of those know their intended victims, money or turf related stuff. A serial killer is another animal altogether but they're usually never released once caught.

[Err]

Personally I disagree with registered anything (sex offenders or murderers). We are past the days of the scarlett letter.

If an offender has done the time then they are done. I see no reason to brand someone if they have 'paid their debt'.

The better solution would be to have be debt high enough the crime is never committed in the first place. By having a registery you subject people to ridicule, and mob justice for a crime they have paid for by prison term.

Now I do not have any problems with a registery for someone on parole as their debt is not yet paid.


Whats the next step? Having markings on cars of people who have numerous speeding tickets? I would like to know who is a bad driver on the streets. It would be nice for me to know if someone driving next to me had more then 4 speeding tickets in their life. Then I could change lanes and avoid that person. But is that right as a society?

Just my opinion

I agree with you. The sex offender registry ought to be scrapped in lieu off tougher sentences. Currently you could be on this list if you had sex with a person under the age of consent. For example, a 20 year old having sex with a 17 year old could be a sex offender. Don't get me wrong, I want to know if the guy moving in next to me raped a child. However, the laws should be that this guy doesn't get to live anywhere outside prison.

We already have license plates in Ohio that designate a person who has received a DUI. They are yellow and look like New York Plates. It's one of the more stupid ideas the Ohio Legislature has come up with.

[Executioner]

I find this as an inexpensive solution instead of letting trash out:

[CaterpillarAssassin]

The sex offender registry makes sense to me because supposedly, that's a thing that if you're a sex offender, you're not likely to ever be 100% "cured" and so if you're a family with kids, you might want to know if that sex offender lives nearby.
Now murder is different. Most murders are not a random act committed to perfect strangers. Most know their victims and there are usually reasons why that person murders another, unlike a sex offender who maybe just has urges for example.
A guy who murders his ex-wife and is later released isn't likely to repeat that again. Many other murders are drug related, like in "da-hood". All of those know their intended victims, money or turf related stuff. A serial killer is another animal altogether but they're usually never released once caught.

Right. They consider most types of sex offender as mentally I'll, and if tv has taught me correctly, it is a disease. I would venture to say that it is incurable, and as such offenders should never be released. With the damage that is done to the victim, usually lifelong, they should suffer for there entire life. If there was a type of release it should be to halfway houses that are still tightly controlled with curfews, etc.

But with murderers, I would certainly li,e to know if my neighbor is a convicted murderer. If he killed his ex-wife, or his neighbor, I should want to be prepared because he/she is probably imbalanced and who is to say he wouldn't murder me if I trampled his bushes?

[EvilHorace]

But with murderers, I would certainly li,e to know if my neighbor is a convicted murderer. If he killed his ex-wife, or his neighbor, I should want to be prepared because he/she is probably imbalanced and who is to say he wouldn't murder me if I trampled his bushes?

That's a good point being that I (and hopefully everyone else here) would never even consider murdering anyone no matter what. A person capable of murder has (at least) fewer morals than I do, no doubt.

DUIs however (like special plates) is going too far IMO but I know that many would argue that too.

[b-man1]

The better solution would be to have be debt high enough the crime is never committed in the first place.

If that was the case, there would be no first degree murder in states with the death sentence as a possible punishment...

[EvilHorace]

I'm quite sure that the possibility of stiff punishment rarely deters those who commit those types of crimes.

[renovation]

anyone here besides me ever had to sit though a murder trial ?

[darcy]

anyone here besides me ever had to sit though a murder trial ?

not me, and glad of it,,

[Kaworu]

A government list of your good/bad neighbors is always better than going outside and actually meeting your neighbor.


EDIT: B-man slow down your folding, you're going to pass me ;_;

[EvilHorace]

A government list of your good/bad neighbors is always better than going outside and actually meeting your neighbor.

I know that you're trying to be sarcastic but seriously, you'd never know if your neighbors were child molesters or murderers just by talking to them casually. They'll never let that info out nor could you just tell by their looks, mannerisms.
How many times do we see that stuff on the news and their neighbors always say what a nice, normal guy he seemed to be (after he just butchered his whole family)?

[b-man1]

A government list of your good/bad neighbors is always better than going outside and actually meeting your neighbor.


EDIT: B-man slow down your folding, you're going to pass me ;_;

tick...tick...tick... lol