I like working on cars

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:55 pm

But the damn rust on bolts and what not just sucks. I cant even count how many I have broken off or just wont budge or stripped. Just amazing they havent countered this yet. Ugh.

Executioner · Post by **Executioner** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:54 pm

nexus_7 wrote:But the damn rust on bolts and what not just sucks. I cant even count how many I have broken off or just wont budge or stripped. Just amazing they havent countered this yet. Ugh.

Because they want you to buy another one (new car). I had the same issue when I lived close to the beach for 10 years. Rust everywhere, and I ended up selling my 1971 El Camino due to rust damage.

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:56 pm

it really isnt the body usually, but its all these damn screws and bolts and what not. so annoying.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:50 pm

If I know what i will be working on the night before ill shoot everything with some penetrating oil. Helps alot. I still get stuck ones but a torch can do wonders.

normalicy · Post by **normalicy** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:36 am

Yeah, what Pugsley said (heat helps a lot when all else fails). Though, I have had a few that just snapped despite all attempts.

Actually, there are solutions to this problem. It's called anti-seize. But you rarely find it on anything but engine parts.

Anyhow, I highly suggest PB Blaster for the penetrating oil & if you can, I even suggest spraying the bolt(s) once or twice a day for a week or two. It really makes a difference.

I replace all bolts on project cars with stainless (unless a specific strength is necessary).

EvilHorace · Post by **EvilHorace** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:18 am

You could also just buy a southern car and live there too. Those don't rust as bad.
Older Volvo's and other Euro cars almost never have issues with that but in our northern areas with road salt, many cars, especially Japanese cars are very effected by rust. A torch is usually required.

normalicy · Post by **normalicy** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:37 am

My experience is that the best cars come from the Colorado region. They don't use salt so there aren't rust issues. They don't get intense heat, so there aren't too many dry rot issues either. Every time I'm out there, it's amazing how many cars I see that are stock from the 50's with old people driving the things around. Actually, you don't see many new cars out there.

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:23 pm

I have probably ten cans of PB here and use it all the time. but ya know. there is always the few that just dont work.

I do heat on occasion, but cant use it on bolts that go threw plastic or rubber.

EvilHorace · Post by **EvilHorace** » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:02 pm

I'd agree in that western cars are good too. When I was living in Wyo, CO many years ago, 20+ yr old cars w/o rust wasn't unusual. They didn't use salt there.

Cars from AZ on the other hand are rust free but the sun kills the interiors and paint.

Qui Gon-Jinn · Post by **Qui Gon-Jinn** » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:56 pm

AZ cars do get the sun and the paint and interior gets beat.. but they don't rust.. and tend to run forever..

my Comanche is at 171000 miles..

had it a year almost now.. did the Clutch Master Cylynder.. Front brakes.. and the fuel pump.. bolts where tight.. but none where seized.