Tonight I took the engine cover off my 2008 Avenger just to have a look at the engine. I then discovered that I will never change the spark plugs on this engine myself. You have to remove the entire upper intake to get to the rear bank.
I also ordered air and oil filters for it which arrived today. Both of which I'll have to return. The wrong air filter was placed in the box. Not the shipping box, the actual filter box. I ordered a 33-2373 and in the box was a 33-2153. The oil filter is Chrysler's fault. My manual lists a 04884899AB which is a 22mm thread and is equivalent to a K&N HP-2010. However, I was reading in another forum that the HP-2010 is the wrong filter for this car. So I crawled underneath and low and behold, MOPAR part 05281090 was installed. This is a 3/4 inch thread and from what I can cross reference, and is equivalent to a FRAM PH16, a WIX 51085, and a K&N HP-2004.
welcome to chrysler - in the old days of the hemi some you had to rotate the motor or remove /lift it to change plugs . i wonder what a major tuneup costs joy joy . it was not uncommon in the old days the 60s . to hear people bitch they got rip off on tune ups .the shops would charge them but not replace some of the rear plugs do to what a pain it was to swap plugs on big blocks.and these car didn't have the motors turned side ways in them . now a days you cant cut a wheel well open to make it easyer .i want to see you chop up the fire wall to get to the plugs on this one
the Last time I was Talking to myself . I got into such a heated argument . that is why I swore I never talk to that guy again. you know what it worked now no buddy talking to me.
renovation wrote:welcome to chrysler - in the old days of the hemi some you had to rotate the motor or remove /lift it to change plugs . i wonder what a major tuneup costs joy joy . it was not uncommon in the old days the 60s . to hear people bitch they got rip off on tune ups .the shops would charge them but not replace some of the rear plugs do to what a pain it was to swap plugs on big blocks.and these car didn't have the motors turned side ways in them . now a days you cant cut a wheel well open to make it easyer .i want to see you chop up the fire wall to get to the plugs on this one
The plugs are not on the back of the motor. The are actually under the upper intake. The plugs on this one go dow through the valve covers. According to the manual the plugs and timing belt are due for replacement at 102K miles. I'll just have the dealer take care of both when it's time. I'm starting to miss the 3.8L that was in the Mustang I traded in. The plugs were tight to get out but it could at least be done without taking the upper intake off. I did find that the oil filter is in a convenient spot. It's located on the bottom of the engine, on the right corner. It's also vertical. I was glad to see that. Now I just need to make sure I get the right filter this time.
Err, what he was refering to was on a V8 application, the plugs located closest to the firewall were a total "mofo" to get to, hence them not getting changed during a tune up. I had a similar problem with my chevelle. It had aftermarket heads and the spark plug holes had been moved, under the header tubes so getting to them was a total pain in the ...
Key Keeper wrote:Err, what he was refering to was on a V8 application, the plugs located closest to the firewall were a total "mofo" to get to, hence them not getting changed during a tune up. I had a similar problem with my chevelle. It had aftermarket heads and the spark plug holes had been moved, under the header tubes so getting to them was a total pain in the ...
Now I get it. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm still trying to figure out which filter this takes. On the avengerforumz.com, I'm being told that the databases are wrong and the HP-2010 (22mm thread) is correct. However, if I cross reference the part actually installed on the car, I'm getting HP-2004 (3/4). The only thing I know to do is get both and see which one will fit.
I know this isn't anything new for Chrysler though. My dad has a 72 Duster 340, 4bbl. The oil filter listed for it is wrong also. The way the filter is oriented requires a shorter filter than the part listed.
The tranmission in you avenger is probably made by Mitsubishi. Its probably a KM177A which is a nighmare to rebuild and r/r. It also might be a mopar trans e.g. A604. Mitsubishi has a lot of roots in the avenger.
Key Keeper wrote:The tranmission in you avenger is probably made by Mitsubishi. Its probably a KM177A which is a nighmare to rebuild and r/r. It also might be a mopar trans e.g. A604. Mitsubishi has a lot of roots in the avenger.
All I know about the transmission is that it's the Six Speed with Autostick.
