Gollee gumdrops. Which country is always among the first, if not the first, offering assistance to other countries when they have a disaster. And we do so almost immediately. Now, where are the ones offering help to us with this Katrina disaster?
What comes around obviously doesn't go around. Sure we can handle it, but...some payback or offerings would be a good move.
Where is the offering of help from other countries?
Where is the offering of help from other countries?
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the funny thing is we help all these countrys, and in return they pay us with hatred, go figure
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I want to see the wondeful UN that we support get their asses in there with some sand bags.
Yeah it is our fault because we did not ratify the Kyoto treaty. America will be blamed for every natural disaster from now until the end of time. We are an easy target because we are too interested in keeping friends (that hate us) to tell them to F off.Did you hear where the German minister of some sorts blamed this disaster on US global warming? what an asshat!
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Great email sent to CNN they just read - people are writing in on whether or not they think the international community should help:
"I won't be satisfied until I see South Korean soldiers helping shore up the levees on TV."
"I won't be satisfied until I see South Korean soldiers helping shore up the levees on TV."
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Originally posted by Red Dawn
No sh!t, where are all those ungrateful Iraqi's?
Typical unpredictable, hateful and sarcastic reply.But to answer your umm, comment..fortunately some of those animals were busy with some kind of 'stampede' today. And you know I wasn't meaning them. btw, you ever have anything actually 'positive' to add here? Thought married life would mellow you some. hehe
Saw that on Cnn a bit ago too FP. But it doesn't matter if we help others or not, they still bitch at us regardless and "everything is our fault". Blame America. Yes South Korea should be here helping us more than most. Japan, England, Saudi should help with oil. Canada? Will we even hear a peep?
I would turn back anything from france and germany. Though perhaps use the french flag, the only ones they have, the white ones, for diapars for babies.
As for the *cough cough* UN, it's become more like the 'CRU". Cowards r us. That building should be some sort of shelter/hospital. Something actually useful.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-08-31-katrina-world_x.htm
World responds to Katrina with compassion — mostly
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — From papal prayers to telegrams from China, the world reacted with an outpouring of compassion Wednesday for the victims of Hurricane Katrina in messages tinged by shock that a disaster of this scale could occur in the United States.
Islamic extremists rejoiced in America's misfortune, giving the storm a military rank and declaring in Internet chatter that "Private" Katrina had joined the global jihad, or holy war. With "God's help," they declared, oil prices would hit $100 a barrel this year.
Venezuela's government, which has had tense relations with Washington, offered humanitarian aid and fuel if requested.
The storm was seen as an equalizer — proof that any country, weak or strong, can be victimized by a natural disaster. Images of flood-ravaged New Orleans earned particular sympathy in central Europe, where dozens died in raging floodwaters only days ago. (Related story: Tsunami zone sympathizes)
"Nature proved that no matter how rich and economically developed you are, you can't fight it," says Danut Afasei, a local official in Romania's Harghita county, where flooding killed 13 people last week.
Throughout Europe, concerned citizens lamented the loss of life and the damage caused to New Orleans, often described as one of North America's most "European" cities.
French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder sent messages of sympathy to President Bush. Chirac, who has famously quarreled with Bush over the Iraq war, addressed this letter, "Dear George."
Pope Benedict XVI said he was praying for victims of the "tragic" hurricane while China's President Hu Jintao expressed his "belief that that the American people will definitely overcome the natural disaster and rebuild their beautiful homeland." (Related story: Pope prays for victims, rescuers)
Britain's Queen Elizabeth II also sent a message to Bush saying she was "deeply shocked and saddened" at the devastation caused by the hurricane and expressing her condolences, "especially to the families of those who have lost their lives, to the injured and to all who have been affected by this terrible disaster."
The U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland — a capital at the foot of the Alps hit by flooding last week — said calls were rushing in from Swiss individuals and institutions looking for a way to donate to relief efforts.
"We are getting calls from the Swiss public looking to express their condolences, (and) people are also asking for an account number where they can make donations," said spokesman Daniel Wendell.
The Internet-edition Vienna daily Der Standard had recorded 820 postings commenting on a front-page story on the hurricane. In one of the postings, signature "Emerald" asked where money could be donated to the victims, but the question sparked a debate about whether a rich country like the United States needed such aid.
In response, one posting, from signature "far out," argued that hurricane victims who are poor still needed support.
Amid the sympathy, however, there was criticism.
As U.S. military engineers struggled to shore up breached levees, experts in the Netherlands expressed surprise that New Orleans' flood systems failed to restrain the raging waters.
With half of the country's population of 16 million living below sea level, the Netherlands prepared for a "perfect storm" soon after floods in 1953 killed 2,000 people. The nation installed massive hydraulic sea walls.
"I don't want to sound overly critical, but it's hard to imagine that (the damage caused by Katrina) could happen in a Western country," said Ted Sluijter, spokesman for the park where the sea walls are exhibited. "It seemed like plans for protection and evacuation weren't really in place, and once it happened, the coordination was on loose hinges."
The sympathy was muted in some corners by a sense that the United States reaped what it sowed, since the country is seen as the main contributor to global warming.
Joern Ehlers, a spokesman for World Wildlife Fund Germany, said global warming had increased the intensity of hurricanes.
"The Americans have a big impact on the greenhouse effect," Ehlers said. (Related story: Scientists: Global warming pumps up storms)
But Harlan L. Watson, the U.S. envoy for negotiations on climate change, denied any link between global warming and the strength of storms.
"Our scientists are telling us right now that there's not a linkage," he said in Geneva. "I'll rely on their information."
Then what would be the point of them offering help if we're going to sit on our moral high horse and sneer back...
World responds to Katrina with compassion — mostly
VIENNA, Austria (AP) — From papal prayers to telegrams from China, the world reacted with an outpouring of compassion Wednesday for the victims of Hurricane Katrina in messages tinged by shock that a disaster of this scale could occur in the United States.
Islamic extremists rejoiced in America's misfortune, giving the storm a military rank and declaring in Internet chatter that "Private" Katrina had joined the global jihad, or holy war. With "God's help," they declared, oil prices would hit $100 a barrel this year.
Venezuela's government, which has had tense relations with Washington, offered humanitarian aid and fuel if requested.
The storm was seen as an equalizer — proof that any country, weak or strong, can be victimized by a natural disaster. Images of flood-ravaged New Orleans earned particular sympathy in central Europe, where dozens died in raging floodwaters only days ago. (Related story: Tsunami zone sympathizes)
"Nature proved that no matter how rich and economically developed you are, you can't fight it," says Danut Afasei, a local official in Romania's Harghita county, where flooding killed 13 people last week.
Throughout Europe, concerned citizens lamented the loss of life and the damage caused to New Orleans, often described as one of North America's most "European" cities.
French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder sent messages of sympathy to President Bush. Chirac, who has famously quarreled with Bush over the Iraq war, addressed this letter, "Dear George."
Pope Benedict XVI said he was praying for victims of the "tragic" hurricane while China's President Hu Jintao expressed his "belief that that the American people will definitely overcome the natural disaster and rebuild their beautiful homeland." (Related story: Pope prays for victims, rescuers)
Britain's Queen Elizabeth II also sent a message to Bush saying she was "deeply shocked and saddened" at the devastation caused by the hurricane and expressing her condolences, "especially to the families of those who have lost their lives, to the injured and to all who have been affected by this terrible disaster."
The U.S. Embassy in Bern, Switzerland — a capital at the foot of the Alps hit by flooding last week — said calls were rushing in from Swiss individuals and institutions looking for a way to donate to relief efforts.
"We are getting calls from the Swiss public looking to express their condolences, (and) people are also asking for an account number where they can make donations," said spokesman Daniel Wendell.
The Internet-edition Vienna daily Der Standard had recorded 820 postings commenting on a front-page story on the hurricane. In one of the postings, signature "Emerald" asked where money could be donated to the victims, but the question sparked a debate about whether a rich country like the United States needed such aid.
In response, one posting, from signature "far out," argued that hurricane victims who are poor still needed support.
Amid the sympathy, however, there was criticism.
As U.S. military engineers struggled to shore up breached levees, experts in the Netherlands expressed surprise that New Orleans' flood systems failed to restrain the raging waters.
With half of the country's population of 16 million living below sea level, the Netherlands prepared for a "perfect storm" soon after floods in 1953 killed 2,000 people. The nation installed massive hydraulic sea walls.
"I don't want to sound overly critical, but it's hard to imagine that (the damage caused by Katrina) could happen in a Western country," said Ted Sluijter, spokesman for the park where the sea walls are exhibited. "It seemed like plans for protection and evacuation weren't really in place, and once it happened, the coordination was on loose hinges."
The sympathy was muted in some corners by a sense that the United States reaped what it sowed, since the country is seen as the main contributor to global warming.
Joern Ehlers, a spokesman for World Wildlife Fund Germany, said global warming had increased the intensity of hurricanes.
"The Americans have a big impact on the greenhouse effect," Ehlers said. (Related story: Scientists: Global warming pumps up storms)
But Harlan L. Watson, the U.S. envoy for negotiations on climate change, denied any link between global warming and the strength of storms.
"Our scientists are telling us right now that there's not a linkage," he said in Geneva. "I'll rely on their information."
I would turn back anything from france and germany. Though perhaps use the french flag, the only ones they have, the white ones, for diapars for babies.
Then what would be the point of them offering help if we're going to sit on our moral high horse and sneer back...
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Typical thoughts from most. So Sweden is the only real one to actually offer us help. Interesting. I expected the islamic extremists to praise this and say allah caused it.
Venezuela is a surprise. We should take them up on it.
As for any greenhouse effect, we didn't do that with intent of what may happen. We didn't know. No one did. Now it's too late.
Where do I start. Let's see, the french have been "sneering" at us ever since we saved them from germany. Later they harmed the graves of many of our people burried there who helped liberate that damned country. They sent weapons and made illegal oil deals with iraq, which is why they were against any takeover.
Yep. We can most certainly "sneer" back at them. They are the ones who have been on a "high horse' far more than they have earned. And in trying to be the dominant voice of the EU and intimidating smaller countries.
Anyway. I was joking about france offering help. I know better.
Venezuela is a surprise. We should take them up on it.
As for any greenhouse effect, we didn't do that with intent of what may happen. We didn't know. No one did. Now it's too late.
Then what would be the point of them offering help if we're going to sit on our moral high horse and sneer back...
Where do I start. Let's see, the french have been "sneering" at us ever since we saved them from germany. Later they harmed the graves of many of our people burried there who helped liberate that damned country. They sent weapons and made illegal oil deals with iraq, which is why they were against any takeover.
Yep. We can most certainly "sneer" back at them. They are the ones who have been on a "high horse' far more than they have earned. And in trying to be the dominant voice of the EU and intimidating smaller countries.
Anyway. I was joking about france offering help. I know better.
I think the problem is that I didn't come off sounding sincere. Well that's probably because I don't necessarily feel that the world is against us and that many around the world actually do appreciate us for our humanitarian efforts.Originally posted by blade
But to answer your umm, comment..fortunately some of those animals were busy with some kind of 'stampede' today. And you know I wasn't meaning them. btw, you ever have anything actually 'positive' to add here? Thought married life would mellow you some. hehe
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Blade, I think you jumped on this theme way too early....
This isn't like the Tsunami, which hit a huge area of third world countries. This is a localized disaster within the borders of the richest country on the planet. In the short term, the problem is not a lack of resources, but a lack of communication, coordination and assessment. Anybody offering aid now, when we lack the ability to properly apply our own resources, is just getting in the way...
Also, if you take away this "gratitude" thing, why would anybody be falling over themselves to offer us immediate short term aid? Theoretically, as the richest country on the planet, what do we need?
Do we need to worry about housing and feeding a thousand French troops right now, even if they could help search?
Let's see what happens as things shake out.
I will say this. I am rarely embarassed by working for Uncle Sam. Quite simply, the popular concept that people who work in government are lazy, stupid and unimaginative is just a load of crap. But I think city, state and federal agencies failed badly here. In particular, I am shocked by the lack of a well planned and coordinated Federal response. Wasn't Homeland Security created to both prevent and deal with a major terrorist attack? This seems like the equivalent - EXCEPT WE KNEW IT WAS COMING!!!! People have been studying the possibility of a bit storm nuking New Orleans for years, and there was enough time to evacuate....
Maybe I'm dead wrong here, but it sure seems that if we wanted to attack New Orleans, we would have some kick-ass plan for applying all kinds of resources to do that. However, when it comes to plugging the levees, getting food and water in, getting people out, restoring order, etc. we have had our thumbs up our butts. There is one airport now not under water, and a former Naval Air Station that must have long runways. Where is the heavy airlift?
This isn't like the Tsunami, which hit a huge area of third world countries. This is a localized disaster within the borders of the richest country on the planet. In the short term, the problem is not a lack of resources, but a lack of communication, coordination and assessment. Anybody offering aid now, when we lack the ability to properly apply our own resources, is just getting in the way...
Also, if you take away this "gratitude" thing, why would anybody be falling over themselves to offer us immediate short term aid? Theoretically, as the richest country on the planet, what do we need?
Do we need to worry about housing and feeding a thousand French troops right now, even if they could help search?
Let's see what happens as things shake out.
I will say this. I am rarely embarassed by working for Uncle Sam. Quite simply, the popular concept that people who work in government are lazy, stupid and unimaginative is just a load of crap. But I think city, state and federal agencies failed badly here. In particular, I am shocked by the lack of a well planned and coordinated Federal response. Wasn't Homeland Security created to both prevent and deal with a major terrorist attack? This seems like the equivalent - EXCEPT WE KNEW IT WAS COMING!!!! People have been studying the possibility of a bit storm nuking New Orleans for years, and there was enough time to evacuate....
Maybe I'm dead wrong here, but it sure seems that if we wanted to attack New Orleans, we would have some kick-ass plan for applying all kinds of resources to do that. However, when it comes to plugging the levees, getting food and water in, getting people out, restoring order, etc. we have had our thumbs up our butts. There is one airport now not under water, and a former Naval Air Station that must have long runways. Where is the heavy airlift?
I'm not going to debate what country should be helping us bla bla.I just wanted to say I'm very sad right now.I just saw footage on the news of people desperate for help,but there doesnt seem to be any.Elderly people and babies dying from dehydration at the Superdome.The National Guard seemed to have just left these people to survive on thier own(yes they just "left").Do people really not give a **** about people from the south?I've always heard this,must be true.
Where are the damn supplies dropping from planes like we did for the people of Afghanistan and Iraq?I really cant believe this has turned into such a cluster**** and it doesnt have to be this way.82 busses parked not far from the Superdome and they didnt go in because the drivers were too scared,my God.
Where are the damn supplies dropping from planes like we did for the people of Afghanistan and Iraq?I really cant believe this has turned into such a cluster**** and it doesnt have to be this way.82 busses parked not far from the Superdome and they didnt go in because the drivers were too scared,my God.
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