Jesus Overheating Christ

Gloom · Post by **Gloom** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:02 am

K i can't get my cpu to run under like 51C idle and 55C load. It's an AMD xp 1700 and I'm about ready to give up

I got a new heatsink and fan combo brand: Dr.Thermal. Copper core with aluminum body and the fan is currently running at 6500 rpms. Even with the super high jet engine sounding rpms and silver grease (antec stuff) and proper mounting and proper system circulation I can't get the temp down...

What do you reccomoend anyone please help

Augix · Post by **Augix** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:04 am

Im serious try this first ! I killed at least 10 degrees. *&

http://vcool.occludo.net/

also check the default voltage to your cpu .

Gloom · Post by **Gloom** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:07 am

Looks pretty cool, btut I'm very skeptical about using anykinda software liek that... I guess I'm more looking for a hardware solution, but thx for the reply anyway

blade · Post by **blade** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:21 am

How do you know those temps are accurate? Software temp monitors are not always accurate, only way to be sure it to place a temp sensor under the cpu.

Are you applying the compound correctly?
http://www.arcticsilver.com/instructions.htm

The Dr Thermal is a good sink, but kind of dated now days. Though it should be fine for an xp 1700. And if those temps are indeed accurate, they are still under AMD specs.

How is your case temp, do you have good airflow? One way to check if your case temp is too hot is try running with the case cover off and see if your temp improves. Also, if you are in a hot room, that has an effect on the cpu temp too. If in a hot room your temp will remain high til it is lower.

As long as it is stable, why worry. Or are you having problems?

But some excellent better heatsinks I suggest include the SK7, SLK800-SLK900 and a decent fan like a ys tech one (which isn't noisy).

welcome to pca

Gloom · Post by **Gloom** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:43 am

Woah thanks for the tips. I never knew there was so much to applying thermal compound :0. What do you think of the Volcano 9? And who makes those heatsikns you posted? Is it thermal lite? I think thats what I remeber at least some of them being. I'm gonna try to reapply the grease in a propper fashion and see if I can't get the temp down just a little. :0 I'm thinking about getting a volcano 9 or 6 or something along those lines :0 thanks again

blade · Post by **blade** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:48 am

Thermalright makes them. http://www.thermalright.com

I'd stay away from those thermaltake heatsinks, especially that Volcano 9, 11 and others. Their best is the noisy volcano 7+. They have a new one I should be getting in soon called the silent boost. It may be better, but not sure yet. So in the meantime I only suggest the ones from thermaright. Or perhaps a coolermaster aero 7+. We have reviews on them on our news page.

Absolut Talent · Post by **Absolut Talent** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:29 am

i agree with much of what blade posted

The volcanos are just too big, noisy. The volcano 7 was prolly their best one....but again it was just too big with only a single prong clip

What motherboard are you using? And how are you checking the temps?

Is your xp1700 overclocked?

is your fan on your heatsink blowing downwards torwards the CPU? or is it pulling the air away from the cpu?

Is the heatsink seated properly? Make sure the cutout on the heatsink lines up with the raised part of the socket of the processor

And I agree with your second post....I dont put too much faith in the software fixes for high temps. From what i read on that site.....it fools the system into shutting down whats not needed from the northbridge......i dont think it can be good in the long run

Gloom · Post by **Gloom** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:57 am

I'm not overclocking and the board i am using is the Gigabyte 7dxe I think. I'm checking the temp through the bios and through some software(easy tune). The software temp is usually about 4 degrees lower than the bios temp which is scary. Considering when my software temp says 55 its really 59 :X

Forgot to add: My fan blows air down through the heatsink. Ive never really known which direction is right so some help there would be appreciated

sethpa · Post by **sethpa** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:19 am

Blow the air DOWN into the heatsink. Take the side cover off the case, and see if you get a drop in temp. Even better, put a window type fan next to it. Make note of changes in temps. If you get a significant change in temps, your case is not circulating enough cool air. How many case fans you have? If it's not pulling cool air into the case, the cpu fan is just blowing the same hot air onto the heatsink/cpu area. Make sure the heatsink is sitting correctly on the cpu, it's easy to put on backwards and not have it square and flat on the cpu. The hotter the ambient (room) temperature, the harder it is to cool the cpu. Welcome and good luck!

wvjohn · Post by **wvjohn** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:56 am

it may be your mobo runs high voltage - i had a dr thermal on an xp 2100 @2336 and it kept it under 50 - make sure that it is on the right way so that the cpu lands under the copper part

Post by **FlyingPenguin** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:43 am

55 C is not unreasonable for an AMD processor, and you can NEVER trust the temps from an on-board sensor to be accurate anyway. Could be off by 5 degrees easily.

Short of using an industrial thermal probe there's no way to know. You should only use the onboard temp monitor to guage RELATIVE temp changes (for instance to compare how well one heatsink works against another).

The quick and dirty test is touch the heatsink near the base with your hand. If it's too hot too touch it's TOO HOT. Otherwise you're fine.

If you have a good heatsink and you're using artic silver or some other quality paste and not just regular white heatsink compound, you'll be fine.

xsiled · Post by **xsiled** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:45 am

jesus cant save you now.

Absolut Talent · Post by **Absolut Talent** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:36 am

one more thing I wanted to add.......

whens the last time the entire case was dusted out?
If its dusty, it would act like an insulator adn trap more heat inside and on components

Viperoni · Post by **Viperoni** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:21 pm

My processor regularily runs at 55-60c at full load (IE: internet use + DLing stuff + F@H on all the time)... then again, I did put thermal paste between the core and under-CPU-thermal sensor, and I am using the BIOS and MBM as a reference.
As long as your rig is rock solid stable, you don't have much to worry about IMO.

Gloom · Post by **Gloom** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:16 pm

Somone gave me the tip to dust it out a couple days ago and ya that did lower it from the like 57 it was at, but I'd liek to thank you all for your help. WIth proper case circulation and reapllying my thermal grease I was able to get the temp down to 44 at load and 41ish at idle

thanks guys!