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Originally posted by Lmandrake
The notion that France etc. were/are against the war simply because of oil is as ridiculous as the assertion that we invaded Iraq to seize the Iraqi oil.

Nonetheless, oil colors their decisions just as it colors ours. I would not be at all surprised if the French and other European countries were, in part, against the war because of fears that the flow of oil, Iraqi oil, OPEC oil, oil in general, would be cut off. For our part, we will certainly be happy to have the Iraqi oil under the control of someone more cooperative than Saddam.
I guess in a way you are right, for German, Russia, and France it was more than about oil, it was additional business ties like selling weapons and other business ties worth Billions of dollars. Additionally, things like this;
Revealed: Russia spied on Blair for Saddam
By David Harrison (Filed: 13/04/2003)

Top secret documents obtained by The Telegraph in Baghdad show that Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between Tony Blair and other Western leaders.

Moscow also provided Saddam with lists of assassins available for "hits" in the West and details of arms deals to neighbouring countries. The two countries also signed agreements to share intelligence, help each other to "obtain" visas for agents to go to other countries and to exchange information on the activities of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qa'eda leader.
Originally posted by Lmandrake
As far as the rape, murder, torture etc. of Iraqi's, neither you, me, or the United States of America gave a rat's ass about that in the first fifteen to twenty years Saddam was doing it. We sure didn't care in the 80's, when we sent military advisers to Iraq to help them fight Iran. He was our bud then.
Hey, don't speak for me, you have no idea how I feel about individuals getting raped, tortured, and murdered. Unlike you, I do care, GREATLY!
Originally posted by Lmandrake
Please don't ask me to believe this war was fought to free the Iraqi's from oppression and torture. If you believe it, you are entitled to your delusion, but you better start compiling a list of all the countries, some of whom are our allies, that we will have to invade to set their people free from torture, rape and oppression.
Hey get over yourself, you aren't that important enough to be convinced. I don't give rat's ass if you are convinced or not. You don't count or mean anything for me to waste my time to compile anything. :rolleyes:
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Very well said Pred and SlowSS. :)
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