Water Cooling kit at the geeks

wvjohn · Post by **wvjohn** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 9:38 am

http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?in ... ercool-kit

$85$

dunno if this is any good , but looks interesting

Tomuchtime · Post by **Tomuchtime** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 5:47 am

It's not bad for starters. It looks as though
you might be able to upgrade or change
some componets with out too much hassle. I have a beef with the size of some resivor's being a little small and hard to place (Highspeed pc has a new one but it ain't cheap). Hell, for $85.00 it dosen't look too bad.Any reviews?
Also I got a Tigerdirect.com cat. in the mail and they have another type of cpu cooler from Evergreen
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... u=E24-0092

I wonder how that would do for a moderate o/c

bill

Augix · Post by **Augix** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:47 am

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http://www.xtwerkz.com/vapor_cooling.htm

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Sun Dec 15, 2002 12:34 pm

That kit is a Senfu kit and its ok but its not for extreme overclocking.

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 12:26 am

What exactly is that at Tiger?
I checked the link, looks like some type of water cooler to me. Does it pump freon or something instead??

I hate Tiger and their info on products! They didn't even say what it was, just bragging it up. I remember when ram jumped from $85 for 256ddr to $150 for the same thing early this year, they increased the prices and were still calling it a major price reduction!!???? Ya right!!

What is it they are trying to sell? Is that a puny water cooler for a heat sink? And a holding tank with built in fan?

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 2:24 pm

that thing looks like it wouldnt work for crap. It looks like they took a normal HS and put a box over it to run water across it. That and all that metal in the hose will interact with the copper and you will get that mixing of metals thing that will cause it to fall apart. i cant remember what that was called but it will happen.

wvjohn · Post by **wvjohn** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 2:30 pm

could you use one of those to heat a fishtank?

Lmandrake · Post by **Lmandrake** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 4:45 pm

The thing at Tiger does not work... I think Overclockers.com or HardOCP reviewed it.

The corrosive phenomenon that occurs with different metals in solution is called galvanic corrosion. It is a problem in watercooling, particularly when mixing "harder" and "softer" metals like copper and aluminium. You can minimize corrosion by using an additive in your coolant.

If your fishies could handle the effects of their water being passed over hot copper, you probably could heat a fishtank...

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Dec 17, 2002 6:47 pm

no... id keep the to waters seperate. dont let teh fish water into your block and the otehr way around. And also make shure that you dont over heat your fish. if you had a tropical fish tank i could see it working.

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:51 am

If you want to heat a fishy tank use something like a radiator in the bottom of the tank that is safe for fish. Something that doesn't put off toxics that will kill them.

Then let the fish tank water cool the radiator and the radiator heats the fish tank.

Be careful about lead! I think theystill use lead solders for some or most auto radiators and heating cores. About the only thing i am sure soes not use lead is plumpig for houses.

You don't want to kill your fishies with lead posioning or yourself if you happen to be raising catfish in that that tank and plan tro eat them latter

Tomuchtime · Post by **Tomuchtime** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 2:48 am

Originally posted by canton_kid
What exactly is that at Tiger?
I checked the link, looks like some type of water cooler to me. Does it pump freon or something instead??

I hate Tiger and their info on products! They didn't even say what it was, just bragging it up. I remember when ram jumped from $85 for 256ddr to $150 for the same thing early this year, they increased the prices and were still calling it a major price reduction!!???? Ya right!!

What is it they are trying to sell? Is that a puny water cooler for a heat sink? And a holding tank with built in fan?

I don't know- that's why I asked.
I only get the catalog in the mail and I really never had a problem with prices and orders when I bought from them.
I asked about reviews because I've never seen this thing either,it was just a reply to a water cooling post.
I watercool with no problem and that's how it is.Period.As far as corrosive issues go, water isn't needed. any two disimilar metals will have a crrosive effect in free air.AL and CU just happen to be the most common example.In a watercooled system that's why additives are introduced - to offset the effect.I run a little RSC Gunk in my water to keep the electrolytic process down to a small degree.
bill

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Fri Dec 20, 2002 5:12 pm

why not use oil instead of water? I think i know why... cause oild doesent absorb heat as well? or it doesnt move a s good as water... but it must be good since large transformers use oil to cool.

canton_kid · Post by **canton_kid** » Sat Dec 21, 2002 3:27 am

I was wondering about it cause I always lok for new gadgets, seldom nuy them but ;looking for something neat anyway.

I don't know about oil for cooling Pugsley. They do use it for transformers, but they also use it for heaters too!

Ever take the little screw out of an old car coil? It's down in the wire tower, anyway oil seeps out. But you also buy oil filled electric room heaters. I think oils will suck up heat fairly quickly, but releases it slowly. Probably why they use it in heaters. Provdes a more even temp over time as it heats in 10 minutes and takes 20 to cool compared to just turning a heating strip on and off every few minutes.

I'm sure it depends on the oil too. Marvel mystiery oil, WD40, or straight 30 wieght procably vary a great deal

In any case, we don't use oil to cool the car engine in the block, heads, and around cylinders, we use water. We use oil for a lube and cooling around hot moving parts that have friction. I'm sure if oil was a good cooling medium we would use it for everythng since no one in the auto or oil industry makes a nickel off water!

Besides all that, If I have a hose blow, I would rather the system get water sprayed all over it than oil. Just seams like it would be easier to clean up, and don't for get the carpet or desl under the system too

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Sat Dec 21, 2002 1:03 pm

we use a special oil at work for cooling parts at work that we heat treat. its really thin oil and absorbs heat pretty fast. can't remember what the stuff is called though.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Sat Dec 21, 2002 1:10 pm

heh... i got to watch the expidator at our shop put a red hot sleeve in a pot of that stuff and he caught it on fire and made a huge mess and was fired shortly after. I think at our place they just uses 220 oil. In the winter time you could set a 1lb blick on the surface and it wouldent sink.

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