Cheapest cooling there is...........i think......

Kal-EL6 · Post by **Kal-EL6** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 3:34 pm

I came up with an interesting idea. Would a 5-10 gallon bucket have enough pressure to flow water effectively through a waterblock? If so why not just modify a bucket with some hoses? The pressure should be enough to force flow through the block and then back into the bucket through a return line. And because of the shear size of the resevoir, you could keep your cpu at or near room temp. I also plan on using a water block with side fittings so that i can attach a HSF to the top of it just in case. Experimentaion with oils of various viscosities will be a must just for added secuity and peace of mind. I'll be starting this project immediately and will keep everyone updated. I have also contemplated modifying my Thermaltake Volcano 7 to run water through it while still maintaining the regular HSF configuation. Let me know what you think.

NascarFool · Post by **NascarFool** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:12 pm

Ummm . . . . won't work. Pressure on both hoses will be equal.

Kal-EL6 · Post by **Kal-EL6** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:16 pm

no really, the primary hose would be at the bottom of the bucket and the return hose would empty into the top it......there would be no negative pressure on the return hose except gravity

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:25 pm

dude you ever used a water level before. It won't work no matter what the placement of the hoses are. Gravity will level the water out in the hoses and keep it from moving. the water will not go higher than what the top of the water level is... Even if the return hose is placed say half way in the bucket and it covered by water it still won't work... there will be equal pressure and no movement.

Kal-EL6 · Post by **Kal-EL6** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:31 pm

perhaps a small pump is in order........

PreDatoR · Post by **PreDatoR** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:43 pm

a pump is needed but even with a big bucket of water... the water will still heat up and be higher than room temp. Thats why a radiator of some sorts is needed.

Pugsley · Post by **Pugsley** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:31 am

Was about to say. the way he decribed it it would be a perpetaual motion machine. And we all know such a thing can't exist (yet). However... the heat would cause the hot water to rise and the cold water to fall... so in therory... a pump would not be needed. I have worked on a Farmall tractor that works on that principal to cool the engine. no water pump. heat circulates the water.

matt719 · Post by **matt719** » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:34 pm

I'd rather spend $115 on real water cooling that have some half assed jimmy rigged water "cooling" that most likely won't even work without all the neccessary parts to water cooling anyways. Although, I do like the idea of affordable water cooling, but you should probably look in a different direction :/

NascarFool · Post by **NascarFool** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 8:37 am

The processor just wouldn't generate enough heat to get the water to flow.

Post by **FlyingPenguin** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:00 pm

PERPETUAL MOTION!

eGoCeNTRoNiX · Post by **eGoCeNTRoNiX** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:20 pm

Ok.. I'm no genius (did I spell that right? lol) but here are my thoughts. While the whole bucket thing is a good sounding idea, like it's been pointed out, it can't be done without some kind of pump. Now, if you were to find a pump small enough and efficent enough to pressurize the bucket so that the pressure inside the bucket pushed the water through. But even if that was possible, I don't know how long the cooling would be stable. Because you're pumping above room temp. water back into the bucket with nothing other than the room temp. to cool it off. So after a few hours of running on a good game I would anticipate that the temp. of the water in the bucket would continue to climb. I could be wrong, but like I said. I'm no genius..

GL either way!! eGo

Ummm.. Anyone wanna call me an idiot? lol.. I just completely repeated predator. So I agree with him!! lol.. :laugh

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:01 pm

one way to lower the temps is to have a waterfal evvect on the water re entering the bucket. Dont just have a hose plunged back into the bucket with the return water, let it be exposed to the air a bit more. Like havign it bounce off a few steps made out of alluminum foil or something.

Greg

eGoCeNTRoNiX · Post by **eGoCeNTRoNiX** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:25 pm

That is a very good idea.. I'd never though of that. But if the water was still gettin warmer in the bucket would the hot air in turn rise therefor warming up the foil and the air temp. in the bucket and creating condensation? lol.. We're getting pretty in depth on this.. :chicken

nexus_7 · Post by **nexus_7** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:36 pm

it wouldnt be boiling hot or anything so with the rising heat it wouldnt raise the air temp at all I would think.

What I would do is get a Large 5 gallon jug and place it on your desk or a chair near the PC.

Drill a hole in the bottom and use that as the go out area, then have a funner of some sort on the top so you can use the earlier mentioned waterfall effect some how and jsut aim it to the funnel.

I always wanted a fish tank as the water cooling soruse but havent ever done any water cooling so I havent thought much past that part...like a real fish tank though with fishies and stuff in it.

Greg

Kal-EL6 · Post by **Kal-EL6** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:47 pm

i was thinking more along the lines of a big rubbermaid garbarage bin. you know, like 20 or 30 gallons or whatever. This way the temp would rise in the water but with so much water in there at room temp it would take a really long time. With that setup i don't think i would need a radiator. Also, my mom is tossing out an old vaccum, i was thinking that maybe if i rigged the motor to suck the hot air off of my HS, maybe that would give me better cooling. The only problem would be noise, ,but i could always build a pretty sound proof cabinet and put it in my attic above my room...............maybe not..............just thinking out loud...........

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