Rant: So the duron isn't doing too well in the retail market....

[cak]

They say a lack of a inexpensive chipsets for it keeps OEM's from using them as much as the would like. The KT133 chipset it's self is a tad pricey(but dropping) but I don't see why the 751 chipset wasn't used more for inexpensive socketA solutions. Giga-byte is the only company with a 751 based socketA board(least that I have seen). The chipset costs 1/4 of the KT133 (though the giga-byte is going for about $100 retail). It's kinda late to impliment it now but I don't understand why it wasn't earlier.

[Biohazard]

the KT133 boards are NOT that expensive. I've seen one from matsonic with sound ata 100 and some other gibberish for only $88 locally. I've had the chance to use two of them, and must say I like them better than the abit equivalent.

[Jethro Bodine]

Aaaaaaagghhhhh!
Matsonic = PCChips = PCWave = Alton = ALi Chipset = Pain and Suffering!
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[Biohazard]

I know exactly who they are. they don't always use ali chipsets anymore (thank god). This one has the kt133 chipset with the newer south bridge, and I have got to say it's no less stable than the A7V I used in my own system.

[Jethro Bodine]

Wouldn't matter to me WHOSE chipset is on these POS, fly-by-night horrendo boards. Trying to find info about these companies is about as easy as searching the web with criteria," murderers "planning to kill" "warning victims"".
Somewhere in a rice paddy in SE Asia some very evil men are having a good laugh at our expense...

[Moralpanic]

LOL Jethro.

[cak]

$88 retail NOW...wasn't not too long ago. OEM's use the 810 for thier celerons. These same boards retail for $50. An 751 board would be about that price.