Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

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Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby psypher » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:20 am

I'm just shocked...never saw that coming...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 975052001/

Let the conspiracies theories begin....though in this case, I'd lean towards them vs real suicide.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Genom » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:02 pm

Nobody was more surpsied by Epsteins suicide than Epstein.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby FlyingPenguin » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:12 pm

Hmm, considering he was on a suicide watch, that's moderately suspicious. Although on the flip side, I doubt his guards would have been very concerned if they heard choking sounds.

There are a LOT of people, including the Clintons, that I'm sure are relieved. That trial would have dragged the wealthiest of West Palm Beach in to explain a lot of things.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Key Keeper » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:09 am

Epstein's lady manager will be found dead next. There is no level the clintons and the rest of their crony organization wont stop at to protect their empire.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby FlyingPenguin » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:45 am

Okay, while I don't like the Clintons, how exactly did they arrange to have someone killed in a DOJ controlled federal prison?

If I was into conspiracy theories, and I'm not, it seems like the administration would have more of an ability to arrange this, and Trump did party with the guy (among others).

However I think the explanation is simpler: I really think the people guarding him didn't care about whether he killed himself. The only real mystery is why he was taken off of suicide watch if he really did try to hang himself the first time and that hasn't been established yet.

DOJ has actually released very little information. We're hearing everything so far from anonymous sources. I've heard that he was in solitary confinement from one news source, and that he was sharing a cell with another inmate from another source, but that inmate wasn't in there at the time this happened.

Again, from anonymous sources so far, it's rumored that he was on suicide watch for two or three days and then was taken off.

We need a lot more answers.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

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Key Keeper wrote:Epstein's lady manager will be found dead next. There is no level the clintons and the rest of their crony organization wont stop at to protect their empire.


Really? They couldn't even keep a blow job hidden, you think they compromised a federal prison?

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Err » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 am

FlyingPenguin wrote: The only real mystery is why he was taken off of suicide watch if he really did try to hang himself the first time and that hasn't been established yet.



I can't find the news story right now but apparently he was taken off suicide watch at his lawyers request.

What really boggles my mind is that this billionaire allowed himself to be caught. When this started blowing up, he should have gotten the hell out of Dodge and disappeared from the face of the planet.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby FlyingPenguin » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:24 pm

I never understood the conspiracy theory linking Epstein to the Clintons. Someone want to explain? There's a lot of wealthy & influential people Epstein hung out with, so where's the connection?

Or is this just a spin on the Pizza-Gate conspiracy theory?

Or do people on the far right just blame everything on the Clintons, like people on the far left blame everything on Trump (used to be George Bush)?

The nonsense on both extremes leaves people like me rather baffled.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Losbot » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:27 pm

I think it's because there's some 20+ documented trips down to his island with Clinton and that he was involved as well, to some extent.
That's why people are saying he's relieved. Bill already has enough accusations and this would definitely have not helped his case.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Executioner » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:17 pm

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THE CLINTON DEAD POOL

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby psypher » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:04 pm

Wow, what a conveniently put together list that happens to leave out all the people with really damaging info. Man, I wonder how they all escaped the deadly arm of the Clinton's. Lol, his Mother and Stepfather's chiropractor is listed haha. What damaging info did he happen to stumble upon?! I'm sure by now, the garbage man that picked up his parents garbage is probably dead. Lets get him added in there too.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby Genom » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:34 pm

Twilight zone forum indeed. Let me get you some tinfoil for a hat.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein found dead in apparent suicide

Postby FlyingPenguin » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:48 pm

My fav:

Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.


Yeah that's suspicious. ;)

I've seen similar crazy lists about Trump on left wing forums, and from some of my nuttier family members in their Facebook posts. He's responsible for everything from raping his first wife, Mafia connections, the entire Russia collusion thing, to being a regular on Epstein's island himself.

Honestly, those of us who are independent's find all this really humorous coming from both sides.
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