is burning of the american flag !infringe on free speech

UberNeuman · Post by **UberNeuman** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:24 pm

I love the flag. It's the blood and tears of people and the many lives lost to the idea of freedom that we all as U.S. citizens enjoy to this day - it's an idea that still stands even if the flag is burnt... Burn the flag... ha! We show the world that we don't care if you burn our flag, because the people of the United States still stands strong...

Burn our flag. We do not flinch because of it... We only show you how strong we truly are...

Badmojo · Post by **Badmojo** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:31 pm

whoa whoa, mmkay are we talking about hippies or sand monkies(as Cartman would say)

UberNeuman · Post by **UberNeuman** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:39 pm

We are talking about anyone who burns our flag or desecrates it... The ideas and spirit behind the symbol are more important than the symbol...

RubberDuckie · Post by **RubberDuckie** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:13 pm

Why would anyone want to burn a flag? They are so cute:
http://www.bahamatye.com/Hostedgallerie ... ill=972995

Badmojo · Post by **Badmojo** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:20 pm

Originally posted by RubberDuckie
Why would anyone want to burn a flag? They are so cute:
http://www.bahamatye.com/Hostedgallerie ... ill=972995

God damnit

, can i change my vote.

Slugbait · Post by **Slugbait** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:46 pm

Before 9/11, this was a pretty big issue.

After 9/11, I don't believe I've heard of a single american insisting they should have the right to burn the flag...much less hearing of any asshat actually doing so, obviously out of fear of being pummeled well beyond an inch of their life before the edges got too singed.

So I'm confused why this is coming up so many years late.

But I digress...please wrap yourself up in it, and I'll help douse you with kerosene and even light the match for you.

Pikachu · Post by **Pikachu** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:43 am

The only reason to burn a flag is when it's hit it's ripe old age, or when it hits the ground. It's called retirement, because you can not throw that symbol in the trash can. Otherwise why am I out here fighting for that symbol. That symbol stands for truth, freedom, and peace.... if you don't like those virtues we'll cram it down your throat. Well that's what I fight for anyways....

Bonus question, what flag flies higer than the us flag?

RubberDuckie · Post by **RubberDuckie** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:07 am

Bonus question, what flag flies higer than the us flag?
None... but the Texas flag can fly at the same height.

Pikachu · Post by **Pikachu** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:25 am

Originally posted by RubberDuckie
Bonus question, what flag flies higer than the us flag?
None... but the Texas flag can fly at the same height.

wrong, there is only one though.... think about what's been here longer

Badmojo · Post by **Badmojo** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:30 am

Originally posted by Pikachu
wrong, there is only one though.... think about what's been here longer

The earth flag? or the colony/colonial one.
Bill clinton would like you to define your use of "here"
EDIT:also "a" "the" and "spoking pot"

EvilHorace · Post by **EvilHorace** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:36 am

Anyone know why this has become an issue again? Like someone else pointed out, I havent heard of anyone burning a flag in the US for years now.
Personally, I don't think it should be legal but then what does one do with the flag burner, fine or jail? I think that if you live in the US and feel a need to burn our flag, you should just pack up and move out....go to another country where maybe you'll be happier.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:14 am

IMO if you buy the flag it's your personal property and you can do anything you want with it.

renovation · Post by **renovation** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:34 am

Anyone know why this has become an issue again? Like someone else pointed out, I havent heard of anyone burning a flag in the US for years now.

the House voted 286-130 on a measure Wednesday that would give Congress authority to ban desecration of a U.S. flag.

However, a law like the one proposed by the senator would likely be challenged in courts because Congress has no clear right to outlaw flag burning. That is why supporters of the ban want to add a one-line amendment to the Constitution that says, "The Congress shall have power to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States."

story link

Pikachu · Post by **Pikachu** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:34 am

Originally posted by badmojo
The earth flag? or the colony/colonial one.
Bill clinton would like you to define your use of "here"
EDIT:also "a" "the" and "spoking pot"

Hmm try the papal flag from the vatican city. I had to remember that little fact for a board question. It is the only flag to be flown above the us flag, and it's only flown 3" higher. Other than that, Our flag is the highest.

Executioner · Post by **Executioner** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:38 am

Congress has tried dozen of times to pass a constitution amendment for not burring the flag, so I think it will stall in the Senate again.

I also have to agree with Red Dawn:

I'm against burning it too but I don't think it should be criminal offense and definitely don't believe there should be an amendment against burning it

Don't we have more important issues that creating this amendment?

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