I see i have alot of reading and catching up to do. Bare with me guys will I get up to speed, looking forward to going crazy with you fellas. This thread started out as an emachine thread. I would still like to hear from anyone with any info they may have on the subject. Should i leave this thread for that purpose and beginning posting on a thread for where we have taken ourselves or just leave this one to run as it is, I really appreciate all your inputs fellas.
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cpu o/c on an e-machine?
Clarification on the Athlon Processors...
I believe this describes the Athlon line up to this point in time:
(1) Athlon classic - the first Athlon CPU. Available in Slot A configuration. Hit 1 GHz, but not much more. Process size was 0.25 micron. FSB limited to 100 MHz (DDR considers this 200 MHz). The L2 cache was off the CPU die, but on the CPU package. The L2 cache runs at a fraction of the CPU speed, such as 1/3, when overclocking.
(2) Athlon T-bird - Introduction of the Socket A configuration. A limited number were made to conform with Slot A configuration. Process size was 0.18 micron. This CPU topped out at 1.4 GHz. FSB increased in some versions, so you had either 100 MHz or 133 MHz (DDR would be 200 MHz or 266 MHz). From this point on, the L2 cache is on the CPU die, and runs at the CPU speed.
(3) Athlon XP (Palimino) - Continues Socket A configuration, ramps up the speed to around 1.8 GHz or the 2100+ rating. Process size was 0.13 micron. FSB stayed with 133 MHz (DDR would be 266 MHz).
(4) Athlon XP (Thoroughbred - not the T-bird or Thunderbird) - Continues Socket A configuration, ramps up the speed beyond 2 GHz; currently at the 2800+ rating (around 2.2 GHz). Process size continues to be 0.13 micron. Two versions came out - the original version (now known as T-bred A) and the newer version with the extra layer that reduces capacitance (known as the T-bred B). On the T-bred B versions, 166 MHz FSB was introduced, allowing for a DDR rating of 333 MHz.
I might have missed something here, but I think this covers the basics. I have systems running item (1), item (2), item (3), and item (4). This is why I'm waiting for the Athlon 64.....
(1) Athlon classic - the first Athlon CPU. Available in Slot A configuration. Hit 1 GHz, but not much more. Process size was 0.25 micron. FSB limited to 100 MHz (DDR considers this 200 MHz). The L2 cache was off the CPU die, but on the CPU package. The L2 cache runs at a fraction of the CPU speed, such as 1/3, when overclocking.
(2) Athlon T-bird - Introduction of the Socket A configuration. A limited number were made to conform with Slot A configuration. Process size was 0.18 micron. This CPU topped out at 1.4 GHz. FSB increased in some versions, so you had either 100 MHz or 133 MHz (DDR would be 200 MHz or 266 MHz). From this point on, the L2 cache is on the CPU die, and runs at the CPU speed.
(3) Athlon XP (Palimino) - Continues Socket A configuration, ramps up the speed to around 1.8 GHz or the 2100+ rating. Process size was 0.13 micron. FSB stayed with 133 MHz (DDR would be 266 MHz).
(4) Athlon XP (Thoroughbred - not the T-bird or Thunderbird) - Continues Socket A configuration, ramps up the speed beyond 2 GHz; currently at the 2800+ rating (around 2.2 GHz). Process size continues to be 0.13 micron. Two versions came out - the original version (now known as T-bred A) and the newer version with the extra layer that reduces capacitance (known as the T-bred B). On the T-bred B versions, 166 MHz FSB was introduced, allowing for a DDR rating of 333 MHz.
I might have missed something here, but I think this covers the basics. I have systems running item (1), item (2), item (3), and item (4). This is why I'm waiting for the Athlon 64.....
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Figures....
Scratch the process size on item (3), the Athlon XP Palimino. This continued the 0.18 micron size. Item (4), the Athlon XP Thoroughbred, introduced the 0.13 micron size. 
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i ordered the deluxe version.. it's REALLY loaded with goodies
i'm gonna use an Tbred A 1800+ for now and mebbe switch to the B if it's cheap later
i'm gonna use an Tbred A 1800+ for now and mebbe switch to the B if it's cheap later
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Ed, a couple questions based on another thread you started that really applies to my original intent for this thread. It involves unlocking the multiplier on the athlon xp's. The proceedure involving superglue and silver laquer. I have seen it done on a download and it is quite simple. However, in your post you said that is was a pain waiting for the glue to dry between each little slot. On the video I saw, all slots were done at once. Is it best to take the time and mask off each one individually and allow to dry and then the next..etc. ? Second of all, that procedure is what got me thinking about my lil eMachine. It seems to be quick and easy way to get a little bit more out of my processor without all the added adjusting. Is this true or is there some hidden adjusting I need to do. I also noticed on a thread that you showed a clip with all your settings, where do I get that lil program from?
Oh yeah, you said you ordered the combo on the asus nforce2 mobo. I thought the $119 board came with those extra goodies, guess I better recheck that b4 I put in the order.
Oh yeah, you said you ordered the combo on the asus nforce2 mobo. I thought the $119 board came with those extra goodies, guess I better recheck that b4 I put in the order.
fro unlocking, give this a shot:
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/me ... ry_Code=OC
can you post the thread's link? i'm not sure which program you're referring to, there are several that i use
as for the asus board, there are 2 versions, either version will serve you well
it's just that the deluxe one adds a 2nd NIC and stuff like Serial ATA (new HDD interface set to come out this year)... you'll be happy with either one
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/me ... ry_Code=OC
can you post the thread's link? i'm not sure which program you're referring to, there are several that i use
as for the asus board, there are 2 versions, either version will serve you well
it's just that the deluxe one adds a 2nd NIC and stuff like Serial ATA (new HDD interface set to come out this year)... you'll be happy with either one
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Ed, the thread was entitled "XP 1500+...not bad"
the program name seems to be WCPUID ver 3.0d
On another note, after going over my emachine again, there still seems to be possiblities that i may be able to squeeze a little more out of it, i can replace power supply easy enuff, and the cpu fan is not attached with adhesive, so a new fan will be quite simple. Though this lil eMachine is going to be my backup, i would still like to play with it a bit, any info guys would help.
the program name seems to be WCPUID ver 3.0d
On another note, after going over my emachine again, there still seems to be possiblities that i may be able to squeeze a little more out of it, i can replace power supply easy enuff, and the cpu fan is not attached with adhesive, so a new fan will be quite simple. Though this lil eMachine is going to be my backup, i would still like to play with it a bit, any info guys would help.
Here's the link to the WCPUID's latest version.. and this one works with my NForce2 board
http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/wcpuid.php
http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/wcpuid.php
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So.....
...you're running just over 2 GHz, right? I have my XP 1700+ running at 2.06 GHz right now, with 35C idle (it's cold in this room though - below freezing outside).
I just received a 2500+ Barton (333 MHz) from newegg for $85, along with an Abit AN7 for $103. No taxes or shipping, and Sunday order meant Wednesday delivery. Can't complain about that!
I just received a 2500+ Barton (333 MHz) from newegg for $85, along with an Abit AN7 for $103. No taxes or shipping, and Sunday order meant Wednesday delivery. Can't complain about that!
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