New TBred...
i'm waiting for the rev b i want 2.2 gig or so more info - some b's are ducks
ripped from http://www.overclockers.com
"Tbreds or Low Breds?"
Ed Stroligo - 1/10/02
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Most AMD processors have codes that begin with the letter "A." Not all.
Occasionally, there are those that don't. They start with a different letter of the alphabet. For instance, there were AIRGAs and there were also RIRGAs.
Up to now, those AMD CPUs whose code starts with a letter other than "A" have not performed as well as those with otherwise the same code that do. So RIRGAs did worse than AIRGAs.
The first low-speed TBredBs have codes like JIUCB and JIUGB, and initial indications are they don't do as well as the TBredBs whose code do begin with "A" (and not much better than late-model TBredAs).
Could it be that these are CPUs that couldn't quite cut it at higher speeds? That's very possible, especially considering AMD's difficulties in getting them out to begin with.
It's still very early, but those who want more than a little over 2GHz had better wait some more.
Update 1/11/03: (this material is also found in http://www.overclockers.com/tips00246)
A couple more 1700+ low Breds have been received and tested by folks out in Forumland, and they didn't do too well, either.
However . . . .
We do have a report on a TBredB 2100+. It's not a "J." It's an "A" chip, an AIUGB chip in fact, and this one did a whole lot better than the "J"s are doing, on par with the more expensive XPs.
This is not to say you'll get 2.5GHz out of one, too, but these "A" 2100+s look to be true kin of the 2400s and better, while the "J" chips do not.
You've Got To Ask Yourself One Question: Do I Feel Lucky?
The CPU described above did not come from a particular retailer.
However, one place might be selling it. Newegg is now offering 2100+s that are TBreds (it's the $97 and only the $97 item on that page).
And yes, unlike a day or so ago, you can actually order one from them.
On the one hand, Newegg calls it an "AXDA2100DLT3C" in one spot (which it can't be, no 2100+ can have that designation) and "AXDA2100DUT3C" in the other (which is can be, but that could be a TBred A or B.
On the other hand, the picture of the product is definitely an "A" TBredB like the one described above.
If Newegg is shipping what's in the picture, this is the TBredB you want, not a "J" chip.
On the other hand, it could be something else.
For those of you who have to be sure, we'll know one way or the other towards the end of next week as early buyers report on what they get. It's not like this is a one-time sale; we know they're out there.
Or do you feel lucky?
Why Don't You Buy One And Find Out For Us?
I just did. I felt lucky.
"Tbreds or Low Breds?"
Ed Stroligo - 1/10/02
page 3
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Most AMD processors have codes that begin with the letter "A." Not all.
Occasionally, there are those that don't. They start with a different letter of the alphabet. For instance, there were AIRGAs and there were also RIRGAs.
Up to now, those AMD CPUs whose code starts with a letter other than "A" have not performed as well as those with otherwise the same code that do. So RIRGAs did worse than AIRGAs.
The first low-speed TBredBs have codes like JIUCB and JIUGB, and initial indications are they don't do as well as the TBredBs whose code do begin with "A" (and not much better than late-model TBredAs).
Could it be that these are CPUs that couldn't quite cut it at higher speeds? That's very possible, especially considering AMD's difficulties in getting them out to begin with.
It's still very early, but those who want more than a little over 2GHz had better wait some more.
Update 1/11/03: (this material is also found in http://www.overclockers.com/tips00246)
A couple more 1700+ low Breds have been received and tested by folks out in Forumland, and they didn't do too well, either.
However . . . .
We do have a report on a TBredB 2100+. It's not a "J." It's an "A" chip, an AIUGB chip in fact, and this one did a whole lot better than the "J"s are doing, on par with the more expensive XPs.
This is not to say you'll get 2.5GHz out of one, too, but these "A" 2100+s look to be true kin of the 2400s and better, while the "J" chips do not.
You've Got To Ask Yourself One Question: Do I Feel Lucky?
The CPU described above did not come from a particular retailer.
However, one place might be selling it. Newegg is now offering 2100+s that are TBreds (it's the $97 and only the $97 item on that page).
And yes, unlike a day or so ago, you can actually order one from them.
On the one hand, Newegg calls it an "AXDA2100DLT3C" in one spot (which it can't be, no 2100+ can have that designation) and "AXDA2100DUT3C" in the other (which is can be, but that could be a TBred A or B.
On the other hand, the picture of the product is definitely an "A" TBredB like the one described above.
If Newegg is shipping what's in the picture, this is the TBredB you want, not a "J" chip.
On the other hand, it could be something else.
For those of you who have to be sure, we'll know one way or the other towards the end of next week as early buyers report on what they get. It's not like this is a one-time sale; we know they're out there.
Or do you feel lucky?
Why Don't You Buy One And Find Out For Us?
I just did. I felt lucky.
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