Future changes to Chrome
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Future changes to Chrome
Anybody here use Chrome? https://www.yahoo.com/news/google-quiet ... 04948.html
I use it mainly as a backup when FF does not render a page correct. Due to this change, I've turned off the auto updates by renaming the update folder under the x86 program folder.
Program Files (x86) - Google - Update
This must be good news for FF if this change really happens. Surfing the net without those adblockers is like looking into the sun.
I use it mainly as a backup when FF does not render a page correct. Due to this change, I've turned off the auto updates by renaming the update folder under the x86 program folder.
Program Files (x86) - Google - Update
This must be good news for FF if this change really happens. Surfing the net without those adblockers is like looking into the sun.
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
Well first off in this day in age, you can't afford to disable browser updates. So that's not a good solution. You're better off switching to the Brave browser which uses the Chromium engine and supports (and promises to continue to support) all existing Chrome add-ons. Brave is a security-conscious Chromium based browser with a lot of Google bloat removed, with excellent reviews, and it's what I'll switch to if Chrome ends up disabling the ability for uBlock Origin to work: https://brave.com/
I only use Chrome to access the Google account on my desktop I share with my cell phone (I leave the calendar, Contacts, Map and Text Messages open in Chrome all the time). My main Browser is Firefox.
Additionally, the jury is still out. Google isn't doing this for strictly advertising reasons, despite the media spin (although I'm sure that's part of it) but mainly for security reasons. Any addon that has permissions to intercept the browser's data stream (which is how an ad blocker does it's thing) can also do malicious things like man in the middle attacks, and inject ads into web pages.
They are working on a way to to continue to support addons that that need this ability, but do it more securely.
And like I said, you can always use Brave or any of a dozen other Chromium based browsers.
I only use Chrome to access the Google account on my desktop I share with my cell phone (I leave the calendar, Contacts, Map and Text Messages open in Chrome all the time). My main Browser is Firefox.
Additionally, the jury is still out. Google isn't doing this for strictly advertising reasons, despite the media spin (although I'm sure that's part of it) but mainly for security reasons. Any addon that has permissions to intercept the browser's data stream (which is how an ad blocker does it's thing) can also do malicious things like man in the middle attacks, and inject ads into web pages.
They are working on a way to to continue to support addons that that need this ability, but do it more securely.
And like I said, you can always use Brave or any of a dozen other Chromium based browsers.
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Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes, despite shared codebase
Well this is heating up. After promising a compromise, Google decided it's still doing this except for corporate users. All the other Chromium based browsers are threatening to fork and leave the functionality as-is and support all existing ad-blockers.
Also, Brave & Opera both have a built-in ad blocker that's not running as an add-on, that would continue to work even if they were somehow forced to do this.
Jan 2020 is when this is supposed to be implemented so if you're a Chrome user, and Google doesn't do an about face due to the push back, then I would recommend installing Brave.
I think I'm going to play with Brave this weekend anyway, since it's a privacy-centric Chromium browser anyway.
Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes, despite shared codebase
https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-bra ... -codebase/
Also, Brave & Opera both have a built-in ad blocker that's not running as an add-on, that would continue to work even if they were somehow forced to do this.
Jan 2020 is when this is supposed to be implemented so if you're a Chrome user, and Google doesn't do an about face due to the push back, then I would recommend installing Brave.
I think I'm going to play with Brave this weekend anyway, since it's a privacy-centric Chromium browser anyway.
Opera, Brave, Vivaldi to ignore Chrome's anti-ad-blocker changes, despite shared codebase
https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-bra ... -codebase/
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
They (google) probably got a lot of push back from their advertisers regarding the use of ad blockers since that is how they make their $$$. I can't imagine using a web browser without ad blockers.
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I just installed Brave. It doesn't use your Chrome profile, but you can easily import your bookmarks, cookies, and most settings. I'm using it with their built-in ad blocker for now. Works fine.
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
Weird...I just installed Brave, but it won't let me log into this site. I'm able to log in to all my other sites using Last Pass. When Last Pass auto fills and I click on log in, it goes back to an unlogged page. I uninstalled it and going to try it again, this time not importing everything from FireFox. Shame as I was ready to delete Chrome in favor of this browser.
UPDATE:
Removing it completely requires you to go into your registry and search for Brave. What a pain. They need to fix this. After I used Add/Remove in windows 10, and reinstalling it, all of my bookmarks and other items came back. So I'm going to hold off on reinstalling it. I also had to go into AppData folder and delete all the files there.
UPDATE:
Removing it completely requires you to go into your registry and search for Brave. What a pain. They need to fix this. After I used Add/Remove in windows 10, and reinstalling it, all of my bookmarks and other items came back. So I'm going to hold off on reinstalling it. I also had to go into AppData folder and delete all the files there.
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
You need to turn off the built-in adblocker & shields for PCA (click the little orange shield to the right of the URL & click the slider "Shields up for this site").
Had the same problem with another site. I find the built-in shields a BIT too aggressive, although this would be a really safe browser for porn or torrent sites.
Instead of worrying about the shields for every site, I turned off the built-in shields and just installed uBlock Origin like I had in Chrome.
To turn off all the shields, change the first three "Allow" and turn the last two off:
Had the same problem with another site. I find the built-in shields a BIT too aggressive, although this would be a really safe browser for porn or torrent sites.
Instead of worrying about the shields for every site, I turned off the built-in shields and just installed uBlock Origin like I had in Chrome.
To turn off all the shields, change the first three "Allow" and turn the last two off:
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
Maybe they may add an option for the adblocker: strict or high, medium, low (or something like that).
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You can tweak it, and disable certain features per-site, but it seemed overly aggressive. I like uBlock Origin. The author is an insane privacy nut, but he's always extremely careful not to break any websites.
So far I like the browser. All I use it is for Google account stuff, and all of that works fine even with the shields up. Browser seems real snappy.
So far I like the browser. All I use it is for Google account stuff, and all of that works fine even with the shields up. Browser seems real snappy.
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
I installed it on my Samsung S9 phone. Works great!
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
Here's a lot more details and back story to the changes Chrome wants to make, and why people like Raymond Hill (uBlock Origin's developer) disagrees with it.
Why are fervid Googlers making ad-blocker-breaking changes to Chrome? Because they created a monster – and are fighting to secure it
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/06/1 ... _security/
Why are fervid Googlers making ad-blocker-breaking changes to Chrome? Because they created a monster – and are fighting to secure it
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/06/1 ... _security/
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
WIRED: It's Time to Switch to a Privacy Browser
https://www.wired.com/story/privacy-bro ... ery-brave/
https://www.wired.com/story/privacy-bro ... ery-brave/
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
I must say that the Brave browser is very fast. I can't believe how much faster it loads than FF with the same addons:
LastPass
Ublock Origin
Privacy Bagger
AdGuard Ad Blocker
LastPass
Ublock Origin
Privacy Bagger
AdGuard Ad Blocker
Re: Future changes to Chrome
I have problems with Brave and this site (PCA). I can't login. I enter my username and password, only to be sent back to the main page and I'm still not logged in. Very weird. Works with Chrome and FF.Executioner wrote:I must say that the Brave browser is very fast. I can't believe how much faster it loads than FF with the same addons:
LastPass
Ublock Origin
Privacy Bagger
AdGuard Ad Blocker
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Re: Future changes to Chrome
Read FP's thread #4 or 5 I think that tells you to turn off the ad blocking. Once I did that it works great. If you use Ublock Origin you don't need the built in ones as they seem very restrictive.
I had exactly the same problem logging into this site until I turned off their first 3 shields.
I had exactly the same problem logging into this site until I turned off their first 3 shields.