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Mobile XP Vs. Desktop XP Chip ?

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:13 pm
by nitro237
I see people o/c ing the mobile XP chips . What's the difference in the chips ? Will the mobile fit in the mobo tha same ?

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:58 pm
by sethpa
They run at lower voltage ( 1.45) for the rated speed. Have the same Barton core and are unlocked for multiplier, unlike the newer desktop Bartons. That's what make them such sweet overclockers, from what people are posting. Should run in any mobo that a Barton will work in.

Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 11:13 pm
by VidmanII
I get one on MON. I'll post back in here once I get it up and running

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:17 am
by canton_kid
I was at newegg, and saw the prices and wonder which is actually better.

Mobile 2500XP $98 but it shows to only be 266FSB
Normal 2500XP $80 and thats 333fsb.

I go for the higher FSB and lower price. Are some of the mobiles also 333fsb? Was the 2500XP one that came out as both bus speeds?

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:59 am
by wvjohn
they run fine at 366 fsb

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:10 am
by VidmanII
Originally posted by wvjohn
they run fine at 366 fsb


What he said........^^^^

Spend the extra green and get the mobile XP. Keep in mind that on some KT600 mobo's ( MSI KT6's in particular ) the mobile xp's won't run at different multipliers. If you're using an nforce2 they all run whatever multi and/or FSB you care to throw at them.

Desktop Barton's are fine chips but they max out at about 2.33 or 2.4 GHz if you're lucky. Not to mention that the newer versions ( past week 39 /2003 ) are locked at the 11x multiplier.

The mobile Barton 2500+ XP's are a good shot to hit 2.4 and even 2.5,2.6 GHz with a good fan/HS and case cooling.

I sprung for the mobile 2600+ and it runs 2.6 GHz/ 12 x 217 FSB ( 434 ). A bit more expensive @ $108-112 but it's a baitch of a CPU. :D

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:58 am
by wvjohn
been having some issues with mine - 2400 mobile - on the multi

i am using pc2700 and can't get much past 172 and it doesn't want to post above a 12.5 multi - i have older nf2 board so that may be an issue - 8rda+ rev 1.x

the huge benefit so far is the lower voltage/lower temps - I am currently stable at 2.1 @ :eek: 1.5v :eek: @37C folding - after serious gaming it goes upt to 39C :)

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:06 pm
by VidmanII
Originally posted by wvjohn
been having some issues with mine - 2400 mobile - on the multi

i am using pc2700 and can't get much past 172 and it doesn't want to post above a 12.5 multi - i have older nf2 board so that may be an issue - 8rda+ rev 1.x

the huge benefit so far is the lower voltage/lower temps - I am currently stable at 2.1 @ :eek: 1.5v :eek: @37C folding - after serious gaming it goes upt to 39C :)


Not real familiar w/ the Epox nforcers but maybe a BIOS update might help? I had some issues getting my DFI Infinity stable @ 200 FSB until I flashed to an updated beta BIOS and then all hell broke loose ( in a good way. :D ), in that it gave me the 12.5x multi, stability at and over 200FSB, and some other OCing goodies not present in the BIOS that shipped w/ the mobo.

Worth a shot if you haven't done it.

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:16 pm
by eGoCeNTRoNiX
Well, I have mine (Barton) stable at 2.3ghz 1.7v. 38*C full load (pending room temps). And I'd heard rumors that the 8RDA+ didn't play well with Corair XMS memmory @ 200FSB mine works miracles :) Love my 8RDA+ best board I've had to date.. :)

eGo

btw.. NICE OCs Guys.. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:53 pm
by BillyGoat
What mobile are you running ego? 1.7, comon roast that puppy - its got so much more potential! Have u tried 1.75- 1.8?

me dumba$$

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:59 pm
by eGoCeNTRoNiX
Originally posted by BillyGoat
What mobile are you running ego? 1.7, comon roast that puppy - its got so much more potential! Have u tried 1.75- 1.8?


I've gone back and edited my post.. lol.. :)

eGo

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 2:57 pm
by sethpa
wvjohn,
There were some newer bios changes that supposedly "cured" Corsair problems on the 8RDA mobo's. But most of the Rev. 1 mobo's needed a hard wire voltage mod to get high FSB out of them. That info can be found at amdmb.com. Don't remember what exactly had to be done........

Most I ever got out of mine was about 180 something with stability, on an early version.....

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:14 pm
by wvjohn
it has the latest bios - my ps may be getting old - i had a 2100 that i ran at a 210 fsb on it - i'm getting anomalies on the 3v rail - if i can push it up a little more without effort i'll do so - i've also got 3 sticks of mixed 2700 in there - need to get some of that buffalo stuff you all were buying that will run 220 :)