So is North Korea and Iran but I don't see us invading them!
How many invasions do you think we should mount at one time? The point is we are at war with Terrorism and Bush has vowed to fight it to the end. If the end takes to invasions of Iran, N Korea, or any other countries so be it. Terrorism must be stopped. I dont deny that Bush may have had alterer motives such as settling the score or finishing what his Father started but there are also many other good reasons for the removal of Saddam and the invasion of Iraq. You just choose to turn a blind eye to them.
Originally posted by dadx2mj How many invasions do you think we should mount at one time? The point is we are at war with Terrorism and Bush has vowed to fight it to the end. If the end takes to invasions of Iran, N Korea, or any other countries so be it. Terrorism must be stopped. I dont deny that Bush may have had alterer motives such as settling the score or finishing what his Father started but there are also many other good reasons for the removal of Saddam and the invasion of Iraq. You just choose to turn a blind eye to them.
Getting rid of Hussien is a good thing but not at the cost we paid and are now paying. Do you think if the Dub would have been honest about his reasons for going into Iraq instead of deceiving the American People they would have supported his excellent adventure over there? I don't!
Funny how you ASSUME he lied, ever think he may have had faulty intelligence? I can only speak for myself but YES I would have supported the invasion even with out the treat of WMD because Saddam was so evil and I feel it was just a matter of time before he stuck against the US in some form or fashion. You also assume that there are no WMD. Who knows what might be buried in the desert over there. Saw a thing the other day where they found a Russian made Foxbat fighter plane that no one knew Iraq had. It was buried in the desert and the only reason they found it was because some local Iraqi told them about it. If they can hide a fighter plane how hard could it be to hide some canisters of chemical or biological weapons?
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I don't doubt that we will find some cannisters but I seriously doubt there is vast qunatities like the Dub sold the War to the American Public about. Look even though I disagree with you about the reasons to go into Iraq I still feel that it would have been prudent and honest of the Dub to lay the real ones out on the table so the American People could decide, not pull the wool over their eyes and then later blame it on dodgy intel.
Either he was dishones or incompetent. Niether is ok with me, especially when it comes to war.
Not trying to beat a dead horse just want to make sure I understand you. Are you saying that you agree that Iraq had WMD just not enough of them to justify the invasion?
Just like a person like Dawn to give us only a year during combat to find a well hidden stockpile of nukes.
What are you people going to say when we finally find those things? I'll be listening with glee.
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Give me a break Rogue!! We know for fact that Saddam has gassed his own people so why would it be so unlikely that he still posses WMD at time of the invasion. If he did not have any WMD why did he boot the weapons inspectors?
Originally posted by dadx2mj Give me a break Rogue!! We know for fact that Saddam has gassed his own people so why would it be so unlikely that he still posses WMD at time of the invasion. If he did not have any WMD why did he boot the weapons inspectors?
I have a better Question, why don't the renegade Baathists use them on the Coalition now, especially in Northern Iraq which is mostly populated by Kurds, the group of people they hate with a passion?
Blix, Kay and now even Powell believes that they do not exist!
Originally posted by Red Dawn I have a better Question, why don't the renegade Baathists use them on the Coalition now, especially in Northern Iraq which is mostly populated by Kurds, the group of people they hate with a passion?
Because they're kinda not in control anymore. We kinda bombed them, they sorta don't have launch capabilities.
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This argument could go around in circles like this forever. With or without the WMD I still feel the invasion was the right thing to do. No doubt that not finding WMD has and will hurt Bush. It is not enough to me to mean that he is a liar or incompetent it means simply that he is human and not perfect (hell he is a politician for god's sake). I am not happy with what is going on in Iraq now and hope that Bush makes the right decisions in getting the situation handled. However it is a huge mess and no matter what he does I am sure the critics will be every where condemning any thing and every thing that he does. This whole mess in the Middle East as been a long time brewing. Can you imagine what it would have been like if 911 would have happened when we had a President like Carter or Clinton? Bush whether right or wrong is at least trying to do something about a MAJOR problem that has been left virtually un checked for way too long.
I'm sure Clinton would have done the same thing as the Dub after the 9/11 attack with the exception of invading Iraq.
Regarding the invasion of Iraq, the only reason I supported it was because of the tales of vast quantities of WMDs,an advanced Nuclear Weapons Program, the alleged ldirect links to Al Qaeda and Iraq posing a threat to the US. Since none of those seem to be the case I feel that I along with other Americans were deceived into supporting the Dub's excellent adventure into Iraq. If he had just come out and told us that the invasion was preordained by him and his Neocon Handlers and was to liberate the Iraqi people I wouldn't have supported it as I feel that it hurt the war on terror and made the world a less safer place.