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Ok, I play Q3 often and I am finding that anywhere from about 30 sec into the game to 2 min into the game, red vertical lines appear on the monitor (the effect is similar to when you put in video game cartridges into video game slots incorrectly). Right now I have my case open and an external fan blowing on the card so I don't think its overheating. I have checked to see if the video card is sitting in the AGP properly, and it is. I am also not overclocking this thing at all.
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750 AMD
A7V MOBo
TNT 2 PRO 32MB
128 MB RAM

Any suggestions? HELP!
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Post by wvjohn »

i have a coupla systems with 32 meg tnts one ultra one vanilla and i haven't seen that - check agp aperture - slide it down to agp 1x - disable sidebanding - throw a socket 7 fan on that puppy - the ulktra i have has a s7 fan attached with a coupe of rubber bands and it seems happy - those are my ideas
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What dets are you using?? Did you do any serious tweaking in your registry, or with powerstrip?
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alright i'll try it

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What are dets? dets=drivers? No serious tweakig to my registry. Haven't used power strip. Don't know what it is!
Will try teaking aperture size on bios along with disabling sidebanding. Slightly nervous about tweaking bios, since I've never done it before
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Post by FlyingPenguin »

Don't play with AGP Aperature - this can lockup the AGP bus. It should stay set at 64Mb (default).

Some general suggestions:

- I recommend the reference drivers over the manufacturer's. Do NOT use beta reference drivers for the - use only the latest official reference drivers (v6.50). Get them here: http://www.nvidia.com/products.nsf/html ... ator3.html

- Remove any utilities for your old video card (Voodoo cards for instance install 3Dfx tools which MUST be removed via the Add/Remove icon in Control Panel). Also, you should ALWAYS change the video driver to "Standard VGA" first before swapping cards to purge the old driver. If you didn't do that before, do it now. Change it to "Standard VGA", reboot and it'll redetect the geforce and ask you for drivers.

- If you're overclocking (either the vid card or the cpu), don't and see if that helps.

- In the motherboard's BIOS menu, make sure that "Assign IRQ to VGA" is enabled and that both "Video BIOS Caching" and "Video Ram Shadow" are disabled. Set "AGP Aperature" to 64 (default).

- If you have AGP 4x enabled (assuming your mobo supports it), disable it - many mobos don't properly support AGP 4x. Also try disabling AGP sidebanding (if you mobo doesn't have settings to do this in BIOS, you'll need to install a video utility like PowerStrip).

- Go to the mobo manufacturer's web site and see if there's an updated Flash BIOS for your mobo. It could be your AGP bus support isn't up to spec.

- You may not have the proper or the latest drivers for you mobo's APG to PCI Bridge. The Geforce is a true AGP card (unlike 3Dfx cards) and is very fussy about having the AGP bus setup properly. This is a MAJOR gotcha. Windows will install the wrong mobo drivers until you update them. There should be drivers that came with mobo on a CD, but you should download the latest version from the mobo manufacurer's web site.

- It's possible that some other device is causing the problem. Best way to isolate it is to pull ALL your cards except the vid card (IMPORTANT: note what slot each card was installed in). Play the misbehaving game and see if it runs stable (yes, the game should run just fine without a sound card installed). If it behaves, install each card ONE BY ONE starting with the sound card until you isolate the bad boy. It's important to put the cards back in their original slots to avoid PCI IRQ Sharing problems (see next paragraph).

- You may have a card that has a PCI IRQ channel sharing problem (NOT the same as an IRQ conflict). The SBLive, NICs and SCSI controllers are very prone to this. Fix is essentially the same as mentioned in the previous paragraph except when you find the misbehaving card, you need to move it to another slot. More details on this problem here: http://soldcentralfl.com/quakecoop/glfaq5.htm#5_9

- You may have background app running causing problems. I like to run a very clean system when play - I want NOTHING running in the background. Don't run anything in the background: Virus Scanners, disk utils, reminder programs, taskbar shortcuts for Real Player, AOL Instant Messenger, etc). If you have Win98 run MSCONFIG.EXE click on the Startup tab. Uncheck anything you don't need running - Windows ONLY requires System Tray, Task Monitor and Power Profile to run properly (and you can lose Power Profile if your computer doesn't use sleep mode). Uncheck everything else unless it's required by something.

Hope this helps...
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flash bios and drivers

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I flashed my bios about 1 month ago, so i am assuming it is the most recent version. I'am running the 6.50 drivers which i downloaded from Invidia's website and I installed them correctly... At least my Device Manager says I am running the most recent version of Invidia's drivers. The rest mentioned by FLying Penguin will have to wait till after work////

thnx for the advice
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Post by bootmeup »

i use the old 513 ver driver and DX8 with win98 , i get the fastest times with 3dmarks with it and a higher frame rate in quake3 . Also the best program to OC a TNT2 seem to be TNTCLK with win98 , as for AGP Aperature on my setup i have it set to 256 and apg at 1x .
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Actually..........

Post by wet behind the ears »

I downgraded my drivers to the 6.34 version and that seems to have done the trick! Everything works great now. No more rolling lines and lock ups.

Thnks for all the help
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