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loading windows xp problems ! HELP IM LOST TO IDEAS ON THIS ONE !!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:09 pm
by renovation
i heard there is a program to fix this but dont know what it is !
brand new hard drive , swapped ram with know good stick of 512 ddr 2700 . brand new jetway everything mother board - switched cpu, from a xp 1900 to a xp 2200 , swap out cables swap out floppy drives , replaced power supplys . just to begin with so you all know .
also reset bios by pulling jumper and also removing the battery and waiting as long as 10 mins to reinstall it back onto the motherboard .

tryed starting to load windows xp on this computer using 2 diffrent sets of the 6 disk windows xp recovery disks .also windows xp corp . and windows xp upgrade retail -that i own .

here is the problem we get thought the setup to the point it should load windows . then it do's one of two things restarts and trys doing the start load all over again or go's to a blue screen of death ?


im so lost -only thing we not swap out is cd-r burner a hp -and replaced the case it's self .
any ideas guys

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:26 pm
by Key Keeper
Had similar problem before with a fresh install after a hard drive upgrade and mobo upgrade. It ended up being the IDE cable for the floppy drive was installed backwards. The floppy showed up in the bios without a hitch which I thought was weird and the led on the faceplate would stay lit at all times. The only other thing I could think of is your default mem timings are too tight(doubt it though). Well good luck, hope you make it work.

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:41 pm
by Badmojo
are the upgrades after or before windows strated crashing to bios?
usualy this is caused by a bad sector in mem sticks,cpu overclock/overheat.
if the original parts and new parts still cause windows to reboot I would say the install is corrupt/missing files(I see this alot on scratched disks).

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:42 pm
by wvjohn
might wanna go into the bios and select "fail safe" settings or whatever it's called - see if that helps -

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:30 pm
by FlyingPenguin
Well it sounds like you've tried almost everything. Sounds like you've tried muliple XP CDs and floppies so it can't be the XP installer.

9 time out of 10 when you have install issues like this it's memory related. Just because the RAM is known to be good in another system, doesn't mean it's stable in this system. Modern mobos are very fussy about RAM and memory timing (I know you swapped out the RAM, but both sticks may have issues with this mobo).

I would recommend the following:

First off, you should be using an XP CD with at least SP1 slipstreamed on it (SP2 would be even better). Old pre-SP1 XP installs sometimes have problems on modern mobos because of outdated generic drivers.

Is there a seperate driver included with the mobo for the hard drive controller? If so, I would use the F6 key when prompted at the beginning of the install process to install the HDD controller driver from a FLOPPY. Even though XP is recognizing the drive, it's possible that the generic driver it's using for the controller is not working properly.

If you haven't done it already, swap the HDD ribbon cable, then disconnect ALL cables from the mobo except the power switch and the IDE ribbons. Put the HDD on it's own ribbon by itself on the master connector (and make sure it's jumperd as CS not slave or master). Put the CD Rom drive on it's own ribbon also jumpered as CS. Pull ALL cards except the vid card.

Boot into BIOS and load the SAFE BIOS default settings and disable ALL onboard devices (sound, NIC, firewire, etc - the reason is that XP is known to sometimes hang during the install process if it tries to install a generic driver that doesn't work properly with a device). Then run MEMTEST86+ ALL NIGHT (running it for one pass tells you nothing - if it runs 12 hours without an error then I'd say you have stable memory).

Assuming it passes the all-night memory test, try installing again from the CD (I would consider the CD more reliable than floppies, and you've proved there's nothing wrong with the CDs).

If it still refuses to install I would download the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic and do a FULL (ADVANCED) diagnostic on the drive and see if it passes.

After all that, I would begin to think the mobo is defective. Seems unlikely, but then again Jetway mobos don't have a good repuation - they're cheap budget mobos I associate with the same lack of quality as PC100 mobos. You could have some bad caps on it.

Hope this helps...