NEC-2500A vs. Plextor 708A

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NEC-2500A vs. Plextor 708A

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I have both of these DVD-Burners. My NEC-2500A is so damned picky with with media it's unbelievable. I've updated it to the most recent firmware "I've" been able to find and the NEC website STILL doesn't recognize this drive! WTF is wrong with them? lol.. Anyways, it's only burning my 8X media at 4X which has happened before. But my Plextor is burning it at 8X. However, my Plextor only rips at an average of 2.7MBps where as my NEC rips at an average of 5.6MBps. This dramatically offsets the performance difference even with the slower burn times. I started two back-ups at the same exact time and the NEC is about 37% through the burn process using DVD Shrink and the Plextor is only 73% through the encoding process. Anybody know if there is a riplock in place on the Plextor? I have the latest firmware for it from Plextor's site.. Anybody else see similar effects?

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wow thats a hell of a difference in ripping speed. Just an idea though, if your going to be doing direct copies (hence why ripping is important), why not set it up so that the NEC does the reading part of it and the plex does the burning? Similar to how we used to do it to copy cd's. Just a thought.
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Originally posted by CaterpillarAssassin
wow thats a hell of a difference in ripping speed. Just an idea though, if your going to be doing direct copies (hence why ripping is important), why not set it up so that the NEC does the reading part of it and the plex does the burning? Similar to how we used to do it to copy cd's. Just a thought.


That's not a bad idea. But I'm in the process of backing up a lot of my DVD's and running them separatly is the fastest way ATM. I had thought about maybe moving my DVD-ROM from one of my other computers into one of these, but didn't feel like hassling with it.. lol
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You should be able to find a hacked firmware to fix that issue with the Plex, I think some DVD drives have a DVD ripping speed set to 2x, something to do with the crappy MPAA or something.
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I noticed, with my plextor dvdshrink and nero, after I did a format my times almost quadrupled. I was PISSED because I have done so many backups before then and they took for ever. really pissed me off. no idea why it changed.

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Post by nitro237 »

I have the 2500a , not sure what it's ripping at , but I am burning at 6x and I'm using 4x media . I haven't bought any 8x media yet .
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It may have something to do with DMA errors and PIO fallback in Windows XP. Check the access mode and if it's PIO mode then go to http://users.bigpond.net.au/ninjaduck/i ... /udma_fix/ for the fix. I'd suggest the registry "hacks" the guy has. It worked on a friend's comp that had a HD in PIO mode and would cause the CPU usage to spike. I also had the same issue when it came down to ripping DVDs. Max speed would be like 2X. I did this trick and it went up to like 10x.
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