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NF-7 sound/video conflict?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:12 pm
by Koo Koo Mouse
Not sure what to do here.
Got a 9800pro a few months back to go into the Nf-7s setup and haven't been real happy with it.
Don't how how to explian this well but I'll try..
Is not a framerate issuie in games but sort of a micro snap.. Bandy.. Sitcky.. Like you miss 20 of 70 frames and bang then updates. (it happens in milliseconds and can throw you off!) It might not sound like a big deal if your driving a tank in BF, But the problem really showed itself the other night after checking out the GTR demo. (its at fileplanet) Well, These things can't happen at 200 mph or you end up in to a wall...milliseconds do count!
First off I began to blame the vid card drivers..went up to 4.4.. no change. :(
Burnt the demo to a CD and installed it in the old comp (Comp 2 as in my sig) and the damn thing ran great at 10x7 ..WTF?

Tryed 640x480x16 and still snaggy.. Cranked to 16x12x32 and BEAUTIFUL but same snag..

FRAPS as a test.
It reports 70+ fps @ 1600x1200x32... It just plain ignors these "hangs" and counts..
It doesn't seem to see these snags at all.
Tryed knocking off erverything in task manager till I killed the comp (Whopps!) But really dint help after playing with that..

Shit.. lets knock off onboard sound in BIO just to see...

YA!!! Game(s) run great!! Huge difference..Smooth as silk with it disabled.

Other issue: Can't play a WMV file online. It will start out fine and after a 5 seconds drops to maybe 1 fps and then soon 1 frame per 10 secs. (even after fully loaded) They play fine though if I save target as and play them. Strange eh? BUT I disable onboard sound and it fixes that completely. WTF?

Sooo. I guess before I istalled a pci card (I have one) and go thru that hassle thought I'd ask what your using for sound drivers and where to get them. Its worth a shot anyway.

Drivers I'm using now are nvidia 6.14.3660 9/2/2003 for the audio processing unit and the audio codec processing unit.

Also this might be important. I HAD an Nvidia ti4200 in here before but was very careful about removing any traces of it but you never know.. reloading windows is a last resort.. :(

Anyway this is the place to start I guess by asking what your using..

Thanks.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:14 pm
by dadx2mj
I have an Epox 8RDA+ and am using the beta drivers from the NVidia website.

Driver date = 3/3/2004

Driver Version = 6.14.431.0

They are working fine for me with a 9600 Pro and the 4.3 Cats

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:20 pm
by FlyingPenguin
Something that happened to me recently: I install Total Recorder to record live Real Player streams. Trouble is Total Recorder makes itself the default audio device for record and playback (it acts as a proxt for your sound card).

This is no problem on the desktop but games that use hardware acceleration don't like it. Halo was stuttering like crazy and Far Cry had a wicked delay.

Just by poking around I realized what Total Recorder did and I changed the settings in the Audio tab under Sound and Audio Devices in Control Panel so it pointed to the NVidia Nforce audio instead of Total Recorder and it fixed the problem.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 10:58 pm
by Koo Koo Mouse
Thanks guys
I tried the 431's and the game acted the same.. :(
Looked for thing that FP pointed out and no such things.. Only the one choice in the list.

Phoo.. Desperate I disable the onboard sound and put in a Creative labs (SB16?) and let XP pick it up without much intervention.. Only thing was device manager showed a ! on game port ... I disabled that.

Went it to the game and WHOA!! PERFECT , no snags what so ever and runs great, AND I was able to view "don't mess with the cops in spain" vid online and no problems..

Success! :) but still wonder why this worked. ?

Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:53 pm
by Koo Koo Mouse
Heh.. Opps.
Just want to clear thing up here and do want to leave anyone thinking switching off the NF-7 built-in sound and going pci worked.
I't did NOT..
Not for long anyway. Next day I was back to the same problem and worse! GTR was snagging and I get pops and scratches running it.
Welp, figured the onboard was better than that and switched back. Sould is good but vidio snaggy. And of course can't play a WMV..again.

back to square one. willing to try anything now.

Heres the strange part. In bios I turned down FSB to 166 instaed of 200 (how it got there is another story) and I think thats what is was by default and now the game runs perfect again AND can play WMV files. :)

I'm going to play with the multipier later, but for now at 9.5 x 166 and at 1.5mhz. :( but games are running BETTER!!

But like I said the sound card switch did not work and want to make that clear.