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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:11 pm
by VidmanII
Well after being jerked around for last 8 months, comcast@home is finally available in my area. I just ordered the self install pkg. I get a cable splitter and a USB cable modem.

Price is $19.95 for the first 3 months and then it goes to $32.95 per month after that. Add 7 bux a month for modem rental, but the dude told me I could buy one at R-Shack or Cicuit City for 99 bux. I'll prolly do that..

Question 1:

Should I get the USB modem or the one that uses a NIC?

I have 3 PCs w/ Intel PRO 10/100 NICs that will all be using the same connection. I thought I'd get the USB modem so I wouldn't have to use two NICs in the LAN Gateway

Question 2:

How do the prices I've quoted match up to what everyone else is paying for cable and/or DSL for that matter?

thanks in advance for any input. :)

VidmanII

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:18 pm
by DaMaN
I would go the way of the nic rather than the USB modem. You will get better d/l spped with it. You may want to use a router or a switch and crossover to share your connection.
Also what ever you do get a firewall proggy like Black Ice or Zone alarm. You will be suprised at the amount of people out there with bad intensions and sniffing around the net.


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http://www.speedguide.net/index.shtml

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:26 pm
by Frost
I'm getting cable installed on the 15th. W00T!! We are also going to pay $19.95 for the first 3 months, but then it goes up to like $35. Cable modem rental is like $6.95 a month. I am going to be using Linkseys network in a box to share my connection between 2 computer. Will add 1 maybe 2 computers within a few months.

1.) Get the one that uses a nic.
2.)Your prices are almost exactly what I'm going to pay.
:)
Frost.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 12:49 pm
by VonJames
I'm with @home, and bought my 3com cmx modem for $190 back around June/July (I don't think they were available for public purchase at that time and if so, it was probably pretty hush hush on where you could).

I pay $32.42 a month.

Since you're planning to share with the other systems in your house, Sygates latest version supports a One nic setup.
Guess it sets up a virtual gateway, etc...
So you don't have to deal with getting two nic's working in one machine. Pretty cool.

BTW, has anyone using Sygate, been able to have a bud over and both play Halflife on the internet with one cdkey ?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:05 pm
by dadx2mj
I have Road Runner cable service and pay $39.95 a month that includes the U.S. Robotics modem and they gave me a USB nic card. If possible don't use the cable splitter they did that when mine was installed and I had all kinds of problems they finally came back out and ran a dedicated line and it made a tremendous difference. I have been told the USB is not has fast but I have compared with others in my area who use PCI nics and there is no difference in speed.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 3:46 pm
by EvilHorace
I too have RR (since last July) and it came with a modem, nic for $43 per month including taxes, etc (which is close to what I was paying before for the extra phone line (now gone) with an unlimited ISP service.
If you're using or planning to use a home network, it's easy with Win98SE (or newer) and another NIC for the network.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 4:34 pm
by Hipnotic_Tranz
comcast rips us off man. We have to pay $55 a month (including modem rental) They gave us free basic cable for no reason though? I don't have to pay so its not like it hurts me, but I'm sure my parents would like a little extra dough, ya know?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 4:42 pm
by Ladies Man
that basic cable isn't free...... That's the reason you are paying more. Non cable subscribers need to pay more

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 4:43 pm
by Twisted Evil
I heard nothing but bad with USB Cable Modems. Actually I think recently 3COM pulled their USB model off the shelves due to problems with a lot of users.

$299 for Self Kit (3COM Sharkfin Modem, 20 feet of Coax, Splitter) w/ $200 rebate from the Wiz.
Final cost: $99.

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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 7:55 pm
by VidmanII
Thanks for the tips....I'll prolly use the USB modem, that they're sending me, for a month and see how it shakes out. I'll be buying my own in the first month.

The dedicated line certainly sounds like a winner when you think about it.

Checked out that Sygate 4.0 ( 3user ). Looks like a decent buy for the price considering you get all the firewalls included. Just wondering whether that Virtual NIC is the real deal...hmmm.

I figure once I dump my 2nd phone line, I won't be paying much more than I am now for my dial-up ISP. Currently just using x-over cable, for whichever two are on at the same time, and Win98se's Internet Connection Sharing

LAN config will be: ( all running win98se)

T-Bird 1 gig (LAN gateway, Biz box) K7 Pro / G400 Max
T-Bird 950 (gaming rig, DVD) A7V / AIW Radeon
P3 866 ( Kidz' / Wife's PC ) Soyo 6ba+IV / V3 3k agp

Cheers, VidmanII

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2001 11:54 pm
by Danielm7
Another vote to get a external modem and nic, dump that usb thing. Either way congrats, was just the other day you had said you still didn't know, good stuff.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 12:09 am
by dadx2mj
I am a little confused with people talking about USB modems. I have a USB Percom NIC then a US Robotics modem. Is there a modem that hooks to the PC via the USB port with out the NIC card or are these regular cable modems hooked to a USB NIC card? The instalation of my USB NIC was the simplest thing I have ever seen on a PC they just pluged it in without even shuting down the PC and away we went. As for speed I know at least 5 people in my area with PCI NIC's and if any thing they have a slower connection but mostly we have the same download speed I just checked and I aam getting 3.7 Mbs download speed right now.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 12:37 am
by VidmanII
Good question! I was under the impression that with the USB modem I would avoid having to use a 2nd NIC in the gateway PC. Anybody???

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 1:53 am
by RichieZZZ
Tru USB modem would about a second NIC, but apparently its needs some stupid software and it just plain sucks.

My friend has a USB cable modem and he maxes at about 1.2 mega bits/s, but he's also running 98. I'm running 2000, have a great nic (intel pro 100s), the tcp/ip stack is much better in 2k. I max at about 4.8 mega bits/s. Usually i get around 2.4 mega bits (300KB/s)

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2001 10:24 am
by VidmanII
Makes sense. Well that's what I'm getting initially as I've already put the order in...doh! After the first month I'll just ditch it and grab the non-usb modem and get another Intel NIC. That's what I have in all the boxes now, so one more ain't a big deal I guess.

Thanks for all the tips.