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How to burn 1000-2000 CDs??

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:26 pm
by glassoftea
Help me out here fellas. A local band wants to burn 1000-2000 cds of thier album to sell out of the back of a van for the cheapest price. What's the best way to burn that many without purchasing a stand alone copy unit?

I've got a 40X and an old 8X that still burns like crazy but it still should take over 38 hours at optimum burning. Now, I could upgrade the 8X to a 40x and burn 40 an hour and that's 25 hours of burning. Any other options or hints/tips/tricks???

Thanks for any advice,

Glass

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:35 pm
by renovation
i don't think your burners would even last long enought to burn 1/4 of what you need if you were to try and do it all at one time :(

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:04 pm
by PreDatoR
nero supports mulitple burners could just mount 2-3 in your tower and light all 3 up at the same time

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:14 pm
by Pugsley
at this point.... your gonna need one of them nintendo robots. program it to chage CDs and the such and that should solve the problem.

that or just make 1 big fire and burn them all at once!

:p ;)

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:12 pm
by canton_kid
I'm with Pred on this one.

I was looking at nero and such the other night looking to burn VCD's. Nero is supposed to suport multiple drives at once. So I would make an ISO image of the master disk, then burn to 3 Lite on 52x 24x 52x burners at once. If you have more than one system, then maybe use 6 Burners. So forth,
For safety, I would not write at full speed. I would stay at least one or two speeds below the disks rated speed. Less chance for errors. Do you want to listen to 2,000 disks of the same thing to see if they hiss or pop, snapple, crack? I have done some High Speed copies from the ISO file on the hardrive, half way through the pops and skips start. Although I don't have trouble with high speed data disks!

Still, having to swap out 2,000 disks manually is gonna be a killer!

How you gonna label and package them? You plan to do this often??
Neato labels are expensive! You can silk screen them if the design isn't too complecated! Maybe stay with a simple one color design. Build out your own setup and frames. Be sure you can't get any ink on the data side of the disk or scratches. The silk screen ink is like a very thick paint, you squegee it through the screen. Not hard to make the screen and frames.

I take it you plan to profit from this venture :)

One thing you might keep in mind on hardware. Buy the new lite-on recorders you need, (if you have the bucks), burn the disks, if you no longer need the drives and they still work good (not fried) then sell them used. You could get alot of your money back on the drives.

If you buy new drives and you fry a couple doing a massive burn like this, then RMA them. Sell the ones you get back. Or if you can exchange them at the store for new ones do that, like wallmart or bestbuy drives.

Or if you are gonna get it all done in 30 days, buy the drives at Bestbuy or wallmart. They have a 30 day return or longer :)
I didn't say this!
Get the drives, burn this disks, return the drives for refund, no expense for hardware cept gas to get to bestbuy/wallmart twice. once to buy, once to return :)

Personally I would not do that thing, although some people might, it is an option if you must, save the receipts!!!.

Anyway I thought about doing the same thing before. So if you need any help I already put alot of thought into this.

If they get up to wanting 10,000 at one time, you can have them stamped professionally, silk screened, case inserts printed, packed into jewel cases, shrink wrapped and ready to send to WALLMART or wherever for $1.25 per disk last I looked. (About 2 yrs ago.) Shipping extra!

Remember the above trivia next time you pay $15 or more for a new CD at wallmart!

Send a donation to the big record labels, they aren't making any money, boo hoo, yea right!

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 2:02 pm
by DoPeY5007
Originally posted by PreDatoR
nero supports mulitple burners could just mount 2-3 in your tower and light all 3 up at the same time
yep, I have done this, 2 internal drives and one external

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 5:16 pm
by glassoftea
Thanks for the good advice everyone.

I am not looking to make that much off of this but the customer who wants them made does want them as cheap as possible. I haven't talked to them all that much but if they do want labels with inserts then I am out of the picture, I'm not dealing with that.

I like the Nero idea, going to look into that.

Thanks,

Glass

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 3:29 am
by Pugsley
you know... i could see about getting you a transporter system for making the cds. it has i think 4 drives and 1 printer. loads 150 cds at a time. duno how much or if it even works.. but i have lookd at it in person.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 4:56 am
by canton_kid
Hey pugsley,
I might be interested in something like that myself. I looked into them a long time ago.

Is it a new one or used someone is selling?

If you got more info on it, I'd take a look probably.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:53 am
by BillyGoat
discjuggler supports multiple drives too, i believe up to 6

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 2:16 pm
by Pugsley
ok. Ill go get some pictures and info about it tonight.

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:35 pm
by Pugsley
Ok i got some pictures of the thingy. I also took some pictures of other items of intrest. they are uploading now. ill make link soon...

Stuff at WADs

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:08 am
by canton_kid
Ok, I am looking at the stuff at wads pics now.

Is that alot of different items or is all that uont unit??

Not knowing much about the thing, didn't know if what I have seen so far is lots of things or extra stuff for the record unit like shelfs and what nots.

Man that's a ton of pics to download at supposedly 40k! Like the bunny, still going, and going and going!

How much is something like that supposed to be? Although I dought I could afford the shipping!

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 9:32 am
by canton_kid
Ok, I got lots more pics to see, and I see that is a large warehouse of stuff, lots of neat stuff too it looks like!

What is that place?

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:32 pm
by Pugsley
Its Johns Industreal Surplus. all the other pics are of racks and other stuffs. the first pics are of the CD thing. if you want ill ask how much for it and get some more info on it. Tons of stuff to be bought at that place. If you want somthing let me know... i can dig around and see if he has it.