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XP Service Pack 1 :)

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Its not out yet and it weighs in about 140Megs
I dont have the upload to get it anywhere.
Sorry...should be out very soon tho
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Only 140megs, thats about 3 days on this slow dialup I've got. Did it improve anything?
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Actually I have always been impressed with XP
So for improvement I havent noticed too much since I just got it going
But I did notice a new icon above windows update.....called: Set Program Access Defaults.
This allows you to change the default program for associated files
mainly due to the lawsuit if I recall
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But I did notice a new icon above windows update.....called: Set Program Access Defaults.


same thing was in win2k SP3.
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Umm, i woulden't plan on getting this if you dont OWN XP. If you do you will get screwed, not that you dont deserver to!!!

This is a quote of somthing i read:

Microsoft Strikes Back | 7/23/2002 | Written by: Anonymous

Microsoft is planning what could end up being quite a shock for the Windows XP warez world, and what currently looks to be one of the most amazing moves made by Microsoft since Windows Product Activation was introduced.

Currently, Microsoft is in the works of completely rewriting the algorithm for the way Windows XP Corporate keys are generated, and is rewriting the code for Windows XP to recognize this new algorithm. This new code will be an added 'feature' of Service Pack 1 due out later this year.

At the present moment, an upgrade to Windows XP SP1 from Windows XP with no SP installation will not give any problems or errors about an invalid CD-Key on a corporate version of Windows XP. This is because the new algorithm feature has been switched off in SP1 upgrades. To get to see this new feature, you would have to slipstream SP1 into the Windows XP installation media and setup Windows. Once you've reached the CD-key, no current Corporate Windows XP key (none of the 75 that we've tried) will work, as they are all invalid. Even if a corporate key is managed to be found, the chances of it working when SP1 final comes out are slim to none, as Microsoft is rumored to 'still be working on the algorithm for SP1 for Corporate customers'.

So why is Microsoft keeping this a secret? To put it mildly, they are a bit perturbed that warezers have been able to exploit the corporate edition of Windows XP to completely bypass WPA. They are planning to keep it a complete surprise until SP1 final has been released and shut down as many warez users from using Windows XP as possible. They know if it's made widely known what they are planning, nobody will upgrade to SP1 until an appropriate patch has been made.

And as far as patches go, as far as we can guess right now the only patch that is going to work will be the ever popular "Reset" patch. If you slipstream a corporate version of Windows XP as you're supposed to do, it will upgrade the algorithm. Note that the slipstream patches the DLL files which generate the CD keys, it doesn't replace them. This is why you cannot slipstream a non corporate version of Windows XP and drop the corporate files in and expect the installation to work properly. Windows also checks for the DLL files version numbers and if they don't match, errors will be created during install. It could be possible to find these DLL's, replace the version numbers with those of SP1, and put them back into the installation media, but you'd also have to find a way to replicate the Microsoft signature on the DLL's as well as the CAB files for setup to actually copy the files to the hard drive.

The first thing that comes to mind when thinking about this is that the current Corporate users of Windows XP are going to have to get a new CD-key reissued for their versions of Windows with SP1. Microsoft has decided that the cost of current corporate customers having to get a new CD-key is less that what they are losing in the market of Windows XP being distributed as a corporate installation amongst warez users. Microsoft is also planning to warn those with corporate editions of Windows XP to not let the CD-keys slip into the mainstream. The EULA is going to be rewritten to fit a new type of 'Corporate release' and it's been rumored that if a customers key is to get into the market, Microsoft may take legal action against those consumers.

Another rumor that is running rounds at Redmond is that Microsoft may actually include a type of "Phone home" feature in the corporate versions of Windows XP only. This feature would connect to a Microsoft server upon connection and deliver the IP address of the connected computer and what the Installation ID is. Before privacy advocates begin screaming, realize that if Microsoft was to want to do this, they could very easily make provisions in the EULA that they (Microsoft) have included a feature that makes sure the Corporate edition of Windows XP is not installed on more computers than it's contract is made out for, and the computers IP address and the Installation ID may be transmitted to a local Microsoft server thought 128-bit encryption. No more information would be transmitted to the servers, and for more information, see the Microsoft Privacy Statement. It's a possibility, as corporate versions of Windows aren't exactly tailored for use by home and everyday users, so the EULA could very well be expanded to include such a feature.

As far as activation goes on a legal copy of Windows XP, we slipstreamed our copy and it installed and activated without any problems. The algorithm for normal customers will stay the same apparently. So far, only the corporate version of XP gets the new revamped algorithm feature. It's one less feature I can do without personally.


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yup...I'd imagine after this sp gets released win2k is gonna see a resurgence in popularity :)
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You could just not download it.
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Well...if you used the "FCK....." key commonly found on the net then the SP1 will not install.
Ive tried it on a computer with that key. It tells you that the key is a know bad key and the SP1 installation has been stopped. You can still continue to run your computer with the "Bad" keys but you will not get any more updates.

I have a corporate key and it installed and works just fine.
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Microsoft has openly taken the position that these bad keys (~70 all told iirc) will not be disabled in any way, just barred from updating.

They really cant afford the public relations cost of tracking down all the users of that key. And frankly, they dont care (though it wouldnt surprise me if it was arhived by ip)
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Interesting thought though.... MS sent us a new Corp key for our XP products. They said out old key would be invalidated or something like that so we got a brand new one!

Just in time for me to reformat! ;)
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It's SOOOO pointless. MS is just hoping that no one will leak a new key, which is rediculous. It's already happened.

I just checked some newsgroups and there's ALREADY a several new keys out on the warez circuit, along with instructions to force XP to do a re-activation and accept the new key, and even a copy of the service pack (I don't think this will upset anyone - I'm stating the obvious and not providing any links).

Official Service Pack isn't even out yet and already the warez people have it released and the security defeated. If only Microsoft had such an efficient distribution system!

I always assumed that MS was just trying to prevent casual piracy (hey Bob, can I borrow your Windows CD?). They've certainly succeeded in that when it comes to the computer novices out there, but they can't seriously believe that there's anyway to stop REAL piracy or even casual corporate piracy (Any IT techs out there that have made a copy of a CD from a client please raise your hands!), and anyone who's a tech-head knows how to get the warez version.

In the end the only way MS can stop this is by examining your computer remotely, and that opens a can of works on privacy issues.

On the other hand if they sold the Home version for a reasonable price, maybe there'd be less piracy and they'd still make money....

Oh and I haven't forgiven them for the joke that was Windows ME.
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Oh man, BOB! Yeah now THAT was a joke! I bet Bill still has nighmares about that one.... :)
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