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Trying the Mobo swap but got hung up..

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:00 pm
by Koo Koo Mouse
First off heres what I know.. very little :(
Been a year and a half since the last up grade to the gaming machine and four years since the "general use" comp has seen anything.) Both running 98. no SE. (not wooried about the Gucomp)

What I had was a BCM MoBo 128 sdr and an Athlon slot A 600 .. Not sure if any more detail is needed here.

What I've done is purchased an Athlon XP socket A 1800+ /Shuttles AKA31 / 256 DDR cruitial ram.

I yanked everthing from the deviced manager that I coud before the final shutdown. Then swapped and it screamed into windows (Suprised!)

But no CD.. It was detectd in Bio but not win 98

Uff da.. I'm try to do what Evil posted about.. Im thinking I'm close... and I hate starting the whole kit & Kaboodle all over again myself.. Ya Know. No fomat!!

Any help on ata33 win98 drivers? Also my 98 cant overwright,,,,,,,,,must be on a clean slate to install (Says only with a new PC crap)

Any help would be great.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:15 pm
by FlyingPenguin
I would recommend the following:

- First (and you should do this anyway and DEFINATELY before a mobo swap, because it's not uncommon for Windows to lose the CD for a while) boot to DOS using a 98 Emergency Disk and copy the entire \WIN98 folder from the CD to the hard drive. You don't need ANY of the folders in that directory, just the files.

The easiest way is to create a folder on the hard drive. Then copy the files from the CD win98 folder to it (following assumes your CD will be configured as E):

>c:
>md \win98
>copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98

Now when windows asks for the 98 CD just point it to the win98 folder on the hard drive.


Okay, next, you need to wipe the ENTIRE device manager. Easy way to do that is run REGEDIT, and delete this entire entry:

hkey_local_machine\enum

This will make your device manager a blank slate.

Reboot and Windows will detect a lot of stuff. When it's done detecting everything and it reboots the last time, you MUST go to the Add/Remove Hardware wizard in the Control Panel and let it look for new devices.

There are several devices that Windows will NOT automatically detect properly on bootup (this is probably what happened to you). When you run the wizard it will probably detect the PCI Bridge which will force it to redetect many of the onboard devices again - properly this time.

That should do it - rarely have I had a 98 install that wouldn't swap mobos if you follow these instructions.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:52 pm
by blackhawk
One real simple thing to check that's got me before is make sure the power cable, ribbon cable and jumpers on the cdreader are good.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:15 pm
by Koo Koo Mouse
Hey thanks guys!
Its up and running now. Just needed SE and a good bootable floppy with cd support. SE doest care if win is aready on there. (my 98 needs a clean disk) I let it install and good to go.

That registry (device manager wipe) was exallent. I had left some things, but after that.. GONE

As usuall great advise FP :)

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 12:37 am
by Executioner
As a last resort, you can always install 98 on top of itself. I had to do that with my son's pc. He went from an Abit BH6 to a P4. Windows would not boot and mouse did not work. So from DOS, we re-installed 98 on top of itself. After a reboot, we were at the desktop and able to install the mobo drivers. One more reboot, and it was up and running without re-installing all his software.