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Weird, fan noises?

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Ok, I just started my computer today, and while my ata100 controller was detecting, one of my fans got louder. i don't know if it's my CPU Fan, or my chipset fan. Because the sound seems to be coming from there. Is this a bad thing, or does it just mean it is getting worn in or something?

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It can be a sign of a dying fan, the bearings start dry out after a year of usage and the fans start to make noises. You can oil the bearing of the fan in need to extend it's lifetime.

Peel off the stickerlabel until you can see the fans bearings, add a few drops of motoroil and then peel back the sticker or use some tape to close the opening again.

Try to find out which fan is the troublemaker, my bets are on the northbridge cooler since they often use el-cheapo fans, I remember that my A7V133 NB fan started to get louder after only a few months of usage. I replaced it with a Lasagne and I have a selfmade copperfoot-blorb on my Iwills NB.
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Could just be dust. Big chunk of dust may have flaked off.

Dust builds up on the blades - it throws the blades out of balance and causes it to make noise. If left out of balance for an extended time it'll cause the bearings to wear out.

I take the computer out to the garage once a month and blow out all the fans with a compressor. Dramatically reduces the noise.

You can buy a can of "Dust off" compressed air at Office Depot and do the same.
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Post by Sean »

Cool, thanks.

I think it is probably my chipset fan, because i have heard of the GA 7DXR fan dying before (I think). I shut down the computer, and turned it back on, the sound was gone. It is probably dust, or just the chipset fan dying. It doesn't like like there is much space for something like a Blue Orb. What should i put on it instead?

FP, dust isn't too bad it there, because I have filters. That might also be why.

DocSilly, my fans are from from 1 year of use. This computer was built back in September (1-3) :D .

Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into it!
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Sean even with filters I bet you will be amazed how much dust collects heatsink fins and fan blades. Do like FP suggested and use a compressor or a can of Dust Off and blow it out. I do it about once every two weeks and get a big old dust cloud.
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Some people like the small Lasagne coolers, other the chipset/videocard Orbs.
It is important to know the exact distance between the two holding pins of the NB cooler cause there is no norm and every mobo manufacturer seems to use a slightly different size.

BlueOrb and the newer OrangeOrb or CrystalOrb use a distance of 55 mm between the two holes, the Lasagne cooler is available with 55mm or 57mm or with a selfadhesive thermalpad (which would fit everything).
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My case is so freakin dusty it isn't even funny. Yet everything works fine, temps are good. I blow it out sometimes.
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Oh, I know there's dust in the heatsink and fan.. lol. There's TONS in there. When I take my motherboard out soon, I will clean off my heatsink, and put a new cost of as2 on my core. Hopefully that'll help.

Doc, what do you mean about:
two holding pins of the NB cooler cause there is no norm


My chipset fan is held on by 4 screws, there are no pins on it like the blue Orb. Maybe I can just get a new 40mm, 52mm (whatever it is) and screw the new one on. What do you think?
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I didn't talk about the fan alone, I talked about a whole unit, fan+heatsink, and the heatsink mounts to your mobo using 2 pins/screws, well, at least that's how the NB cooler mounts on my 2 Athlon boards.
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Ahh, I see. Ok, I will look into that. Thanks! :)
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I have filters and I still need to clean the fans once every 2 months. Filters help, but they're not a cure-all.

If you look carefully you'll see a rime of dust on the fan blades. It doesn't take much to put them out of balance.

The dust coating - even a thin one - also affects the air flow generating turbulence and THAT also causes a lot of noise and makes the fan rattle which again increases wear on the bearings.
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Is the MB from ASUS: the A7V-133? If so every one of them I bought for the office or customers or friends has lost it's chipset fan within a few months, or at least had it start making a lot of noise upon boot up. The reseller isn't happy, but he is replacing them as they go bad. I haven't seen this problem much on any other ASUS boards, so guess they used a vender for that MB they wish they hadn't.

An easy way to test which fan it is is to rub your finger on the middle of the fan while it is running, just a little. if the noise alters pitch then that's your culprit. Occasionally you can move the fan or 'tighten' the screws holding it down to relieve the stress on the fan case, but that doesn't work too often for me.
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Nope, it's not an ASUS motherboard. I think I may just replace the chipset fan soon anyway. :)
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Today when I started up there was a loud buzzing sound. I touched the middle of the chipset fan, and the sound stopped, so that's it.

Doc, unfortunately, my chipset fan and heatsink are put on a different way:

http://www.giga-byte.com/products/7dxrp.htm

On the 7DXR+ (which came out after I built my computer, dang!) DOES have those clips:

http://www.giga-byte.com/products/7dxr+p.htm

Man, i wish I had the + version, it has USB 2.0.. oh well.. :-\

What should I do if I don't have those plastic clip things?
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Sean:

Can you contact the MB maker? That's one of the primary reasons I have bought only ASUS the past few years: they actually have tech support (!) When I ran into heat problems with the first few A7V133 MB's with the Athlon 1.33 and 1.4 Gig CPU's I called AMD up: they gave me the name of the company who made the sink/fans which AMD warranted for 3 years. I ordered a few then convinced my local reseller to change fans ( the ones he used worked, but sounded like a prop plane taking off :D ).
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