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JohnG27
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Hey everyone,

I'm puttin together a computer for my mother. I've got everything in... go to power up... natta. Fans spin, leds come on... but notta. No beeps no buzzes, natta. It's a TB 1200 ( I have the fsb set to 100), and a ESC k7vza mobo 512 pc133 generic ram. I know nothing special, but it's not intended to do much. Mother more or less needs a browsing and word processing. In anycase.... I've try'd taking some sdram out of my old computer and swapping modules... one was 32 pc66 the other was 64 pc100 (that i have had probs with before), both had same result. I put hte 512 back in. I'm stumped. I've double checked, tripple checked all the jumpers. I'm hoping the processor isn't bump. I shorted the clear cmos jumper and reset. Still same result. I'm running out of things to try here. If worst comes to worse.. I can gut mine again :( (( and try swapping processors, but wanted to get some opininos first.
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That's usualy either the ram, video card or cpu and sometimes the power supply. Since you've tried different ram I'd still try just one stick in a different slot first. Then reseat the video card. They can be picky, reseating sometimes will help. I've had some systems where one video card just would not work but it did in another. Anyway hopefully you have others you can try if reseating doesn't help. btw, sometimes I've had to reseat ram and a video card several times before it worked.
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Ya, I have a geforce 2 gts in this system, and a old number 9 pci 2der in really old system. The one in the one being tryed at moment is a creative tnt2 that was in old system. I will try swapping that out first. If that doesn't work... out comes my mobo again I guess :( And if it winds up being the processor, back it goess I guess.
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I had the same thing with my TBird 1.2 Ghz. I had to replace the power supply to get it to work. Right now it's running a CompUSA 300 watt just fine.

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I doubt it's the motherboard but that is a slight possibilty I suppose. It helps to have extra parts to narrow things down like this but not everyone has extra parts and that can make it very hard when something like this happens. But I still say it's either the ram(try different slots), video card(maybe not seated exactly right, they can be picky sometimes) or maybe the power supply or cpu.
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By pull the mobo out, I ment out of this one, so I can pull the cpu out of it and try a swap. I re-seated the ram module in 2 differant slots a few times... so I think that's set okay. I suppose there could be a incompatiblility though, but would think one of the 3 would have worked. The vid card I will try swapping first (much less work), if no go on that, will swap the cpu. The power supply is a 300W codegen. I don't think it's a prob with the supply... just my gut feeling on that, but if after cpu swap, still no go, I will try swapping the power supplys. *sniff*... and just after I had this one all set, it comes apart again...lol. Grr. Oh well, how it goes. If it was a mem prob, isn't hte bios designed to beep out a error code. Uses the phenoix bios.
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Swapped vid card. No go. Took the mobo out, and was checking once again to make sure the heatsink was seated properly. It was. However I noticed something when leaning over it. I could c pins (not the whole pin, but some of them on one side. The cpu wasn't seated properly (I didn't do that... cpu came with mobo already seated by seller. I Reseated it properly, after checking for bend pins. Put it all back together, still no go. Can trying it with a improperly seated cpu fry the cpu? In anycase, I will try swapping the cpu's out tomorow. If that works, cpu is being returned for DOA replacement.
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Trying it with an improperly seated CPU shouldn't hurt anything.

Make sure the CPU is fully seated and no pins are bent, make sure the memory is fully seated. It can't be the vid card or you'd hear a beep error.
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Post by VonJames »

I had a very similar situation. Bought a grab bag mobo real cheap. Put everything in, power up, fans come on, hard drives spin up, but nothing on the screen and no beeps.

I determined that the mobo was bad.

All the parts tried were all good parts, in fact they're running in another machine right now.
I tried everything short of buying a new bios.
I gave up on it though, I didn't want to sink anymore money into it.
So, sounds like you're down to verifying if its the cpu or mobo.
Personally, I wouldn't be satisfied until I could try the cpu in another system. I'd hate to ship one part out for replacement only to find out the other part was the bad one.
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Post by JohnG27 »

Problem solved! :)

I pulled out the tb from my system, and plopped it into the new one. Power'd up... it booted! So I'm thinking... okay the cpu came doa. It happens, will just have to return it for replacement, but I decide to try and plop it back in and see what happens. So I do, power up...it boots! Lol. Suprised, and happy. Apperantly one of those situations where tb won't work till a differant one is plugged in then mysteriously works. Lol. But it's all up and running now, so it's all good.
Thanks everyone.
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