Hello =)

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 8:53 am

Kak, feeling a bit militant today, eh?

bighammer · Post by **bighammer** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 9:08 am

Kak, and others,
My post in no way should reflect about his trading habits.
I have no personal experience with him and can't comment on that.
The trouble making is what bothers me.
If he does it on one board, what is to say he won't do it on another?
Kind of the "Victor Chang" scenario.
From what I gather, good trader, just a real POS personally.

My welcome mat is still flipped over as he continues on the other board

Red_Chaos1 · Post by **Red_Chaos1** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:09 pm

You know, I cannot beleive the arrogance and gall some of you here have. You bash Agora and side with Lethal quite obviously without knowing anything about it. Read the guidlines for Agora. Caveat Emptor. Is that too hard to understand? Lethal is being trashed because he has always been a general malcontent and troublemaker at Ars.
It is not anyones job at Agora to hold Lethal's hand. People had already posted warnings about Blinkman, yet lethal chose to trade anyways. That is soley and squarely Lethal's own fault. I really invite any of you to use the Ars Openforums search capability to search for all topics created and replied to by Lethal. Read what he says. You will find he isn't anything close to blameless. So before you all start making your snide comments about Ars, bone up, boneheads. There isn't anything worse than walking into something without knowing anything about it.
If this post makes you upset, perhaps it should. Only true arrogance born of ignorance will let you make judgements with no substance or fact to base them on. I sincerely hope that you all rethink your own attitudes and gather some facts. I have no wish to make enemies here, but only to open your eyes. PCA is not the center of the Internet B/S/T business, and has no right to try to hold other independant forums to it's own rules/regulations. I seriously hope you never have to deal with Lethal in the ways ArsTechnica has.

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:15 pm

Welcome Red_Chaos1, your opinion is yours and we are allowed ours here as well and if we feel that the folks at ARS are wrong in this matter that is how we feel. We do not typically try to suppress anyone's opinions here, no matter how dumbass it may be.

j/k

paisan · Post by **paisan** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:15 pm

Alex has over 4000 posts on Arstechnica's forums. Not all are on The Agora.
Here's a gem of his that may help you decide if this is the type of person that you want to deal with:

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"Africans were stupid, especially when they brought them over. So they have had like 150 years to evolve, and they have not made much progress. Black people, for the most part, or stupid, crude, and assholes. They think that because their great-grandfather was a slave it allows them to get *special* rights.

I am not going to lie, I hate black people. Every single black person I have met is a stupid monkey (because they are not even human) and should be shipped back to Africa (much like Abraham Lincoln supported)"
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I guess al long as there are no "stupid monkies" here, Alex will be welcomed, but be warned, trading practices aside, he's an A+ asshole.

[Edited by paisan on 04-24-2001 at 03:23 PM]

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:17 pm

So it is ok to give a thief and con artist another chance but not a bigot? Hypocrisy at it's finest, and no I do not condone any of those things but they are in the world we live in and all we can do is to do the best we can every day. You can't stop hatred and predjudice with more hatred and predjudice. But I am sure you guys know that as you seem to know everything over there.

paisan · Post by **paisan** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:25 pm

I said nothing of the sort. I'm an oldtimer at Ars, but I really don't spend much time in the Agora, so I really have no idea how Leavitron is doin. I just know that I've been reading Lethal_[X]'s posts for a long time, and I don't think you guys have seen the whole picture.

Red_Chaos1 · Post by **Red_Chaos1** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:25 pm

Boy hammer, you sure are a sharp one. It would stand to reason that as people who've been at Ars for a long time, we will know at least something about current/past members there, would we not? I s'pose you and Lethal will get along just fine, since ignorance is bliss. I never said I knew everything, but facts are facts. Lethal had more than enough info to know Blinkman was the plague. Lethal chose to deal with the plague anyways. Now lethal has the plague. Can it be anymore clear that Lethal is the sole moron here? Or are you just too ignorant to accept facts?

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:32 pm

Look you guys think what you think and I think what I think that don't mean that either of us are right or wrong, we have just convinced ourselves that we are. I am open minded enough to believe I could be wrong, which I am, I actually no longer care what you do over there. It is perfectly acceptable for you guys to do anything you want to over there, it is your board. But here we will do what we want it is our board and therein lies the difference. I will still be visiting to swoop on excellent deals as long as I am a member however so I will still be around and may be forced to give one of you gents cash someday so be nice to me.

smb · Post by **smb** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:42 pm

<i>PCA is not the center of the Internet B/S/T business, and has no right to try to hold other independant forums to it's own rules/regulations</i>

No one here is imposing our rules/regulations on you. even though it looks/sounds like you could use them. People went over there to help out, but I guess you are beyond that. The PCA site might be new on the block, but the inhabitants have been around/together for a very long time. Probably longer than you have been registered at ARS.

I agree somewhat with Lethal. There is no way on earth a mod should let a known thief and liar on any board.

Yes, it's Lethals fault he dealt with JDaves, but that like telling a pyromaniac not to start a fire after you give him gasoline and matches.

I have yet to see/visit a board that would let a known thief and liar(and a horrible one at that) run around in the for sale forum. But, I guess that makes you guys even sharper than us huh?

[Edited by smb on 04-24-2001 at 03:48 PM]

Mikendi · Post by **Mikendi** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:51 pm

All of a sudden it's raining Arstechnicans here . . . WTF!!! I'm a member of both forums, as are quite a few members from here that I know. We don't take PCA business to the Agora, so please don't bring baggage from Ars over here. There have been more "goober members" registered than in any 24hr period since PCA's incept date.

We might want to get a handle on this before it festers and sends a poison ripple through this community. I realize that we are all from different walks of life, but our "PC thing" is our common bond - lets keep it that way.

hammer01 · Post by **hammer01** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:56 pm

"It's raining Goobers, hallejulah!"

bighammer · Post by **bighammer** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 3:35 pm

youse guys crack me up

blade · Post by **blade** » Tue Apr 24, 2001 3:41 pm

<< You know, I cannot beleive the arrogance and gall some of you here have. >>

Well golly gee wiz mr. wiz with words Red_Chaos1. Funny, that's how most people see some of you guys at ars with you being the perfect example. With your know-it-all attitude it will always be that way. Most seem like good guys but a few went overboard. As others mentioned we just tried to help and instead we get shitted on. That's fine, we'll know better next time. We also appreciate all the

some of you directed towards pca.

I'll not bother talking about your comments because it'd be an obvious waste of time. If you come here to flame and bash us then it's best you stay ars. "boneheads", gee that sure is original. :lol

If there are problems with Lethal then we'll find out and we will deal with it. I just want to be sure he's not unfairly being put down because of his flames directed towards a person at ars.

As for any more flames, let's all chill please.

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