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the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:48 am
by reno
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... v7EiOZD7aI
Milkmen and milkwomen are making a comeback in London as millennials have started using glass milk bottles in a bid to cut down plastic waste.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:45 am
by Err
I'm too young to remember the milkmen. However, it seems that sometime during my lifetime we went from recycling most things like soda and beer bottles to plastic everything and now we're coming full circle.

I don't understand why plastic bottles are still a thing. I'd prefer all beverages, including water and milk, be placed in glass bottles. Everything tastes better from glass, the bottles can be washed and sterilized for reuse, and if a bottle makes it into the ocean, it's not going to be swallowed by fish and make it into our food. At the very least we should be putting more things in aluminum cans.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:43 pm
by Executioner
Nice! I wish that would come back. I still remember as a kid having the milkman drop milk off every other day in bottles.

There was a study done that stated:
Plastic by-products were found in an alarming 97-100% of blood and urine samples from 2,500 children tested between 2014 and 2017, according to a new study by the German Environment Ministry and the Robert Koch Institute.

Der Spiegel, the German weekly magazine, published the findings Saturday, which were part of a federal study focused on "human biomonitoring" of 3 to 17-year-olds. Traces from 11 out of 15 plastic ingredients were found in the test samples.

"Our study clearly shows that plastic ingredients, which are rising in production, are also showing up more and more in the body. It is really worrying that the youngest children are most affected as the most sensitive group," Marike Kolossa-Gehring, one of the study's authors, told the magazine.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... ens-bodies

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:43 am
by Losbot
Just how long can it stay out, w/o refrigeration ?

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:54 am
by FlyingPenguin
Back in the day, the milk company gave each house a small metal cooler, big enough for a couple of bottles. You put it next to the front porch. You leave your empties in there and the milkman would exchange them for filled ones. Never had a problem with them being in there several hours. My parents would grab them when they got home from work. When they stopped delivering milk at the end of the 60s, my mom made ours into a planter.

Ours looked something like this:
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Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:55 am
by Losbot
So you had to keep ice in there?

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:20 am
by Pugsley
My aunt used to have one outside the side door.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:25 am
by FlyingPenguin
"So you had to keep ice in there?"

Nope, no ice. Milk is pasteurized so as long as you keep it from getting too hot for too long, it's fine, and the milk was very cold when delivered. The cold thick glass bottle alone kept things pretty chilled. There is some kind of insulation in the walls of the box, just not sure if it was styrofoam back then.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:45 pm
by Err
You could always put a refrigerated cooler or a small refrigerator on your porch if you're worried about the heat.

I'd just like to be able to buy milk at the store in glass. Nobody around me carries it.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:33 am
by Losbot
I've seen 1 or 2 options in glass at Publix here.

Re: the Milkman is returning to your door

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:31 pm
by Genom
Also check larger markets/international markets. We have some dairy farms in north GA that sell non homogenized milk in glass bottles at the Buford (international) market here in Atl.