CNN Biltzer: So poor...so black???

Executioner · Post by **Executioner** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:13 am

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/2005-0 ... litzer.wmv

humm...

Lmandrake · Post by **Lmandrake** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:02 am

Give the guy a break... Count your blessings that your brain farts aren't broadcast to the nation....

dadx2mj · Post by **dadx2mj** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:14 am

Anyone besides me tired of seeing this turned into a racial thing? Dont get me wrong I have no doubt racism still exists in America today, in fact I believe it goes both ways now. However the tragedy that Katrina has caused and the short comings that our Govt has in dealing with the tragedy in a timely manner have nothing to do with racism and it pisses me off when people like Jesse Jackson and many others step up and make it a racist thing.

TheSovereign · Post by **TheSovereign** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:14 am

Originally posted by dadx2mj
However the tragedy that Katrina has caused and the short comings that our Govt has in dealing with the tragedy in a timely manner

timely? hows this in 2004 the great state of louisiana was told that they would not have the disposal of the army core of engineers, this was because of a scenario called hurricane pam

the scenario said over 1,000,000 people would need evacuation and that their would be flooding
they were told to make preperations by the federal government. hurricane pam was a cat 3
timely....they fu**ing predicted it, im sorry u cant blame this one on fed, the morons of the state are clearly to blame

dadx2mj · Post by **dadx2mj** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:24 am

Dont get me wrong Sov I am not laying this solely on the Feds. I think there is plenty of blame to go around From the idiots shooting at the people trying to help them to the local and state Govt's and the Feds as well. The way I see it was just a horrible disaster that NO ONE was prepared for. That being said people choosing to make it a race issue are just making it even worse in my opinion.

Lmandrake · Post by **Lmandrake** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:38 am

Playing the race card here really pisses me off as well. What happened here is that the people who weren't evacuated were the poor, the old, and the infirm. Most of them happened to be black.

New Orleans had a substantial population of really poor people. The city did screw up. But I can't believe that having gamed this scenario before, the state, city and federal people never gave any thought to how to get poor people out of the city. If they didn't they all really, really, screwed up.

Its interesting that in the Johnstown flood of 1889, the heaviest casualties were in the populations of poor workers from Hungary, Ireland, and Central Europe. The Hungarians were singled out for looting etc. in the aftermath. One wonders if there had been mass media then, if a Rev. Al Sharptonski would have said the poor treatment of Central Europeans was racially based.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:11 pm

I think the Dub and his administration are disconnected from the Poor Blacks,. Now before you jump on me for using the race card let me say that not being poor and black myself (well at least not Black) I too am rather disconnected from those in NOLA who are poor and black.

When I saw Jackson on TV using the race card I was hoping that some looter would zero in on his melon.

That said, after this debacle by the City, State and Federal Agencies I know that if they said that I had to evacuate my place here in Boston due to some predicted catastrophe I would find a way to get out no matter what because Katrina demonstrated how incompetent all levels of Government can be when it comes to disaster relief.

BTW, who's bright idea was it to put some guy in charge of FEMA who's main experience was dealing with horse shows? Cronyism(sp) at it's worse!

Executioner · Post by **Executioner** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:58 pm

Originally posted by Red Dawn
BTW, who's bright idea was it to put some guy in charge of FEMA who's main experience was dealing with horse shows? Cronyism(sp) at it's worse!

Good point. Instead of selecting experienced people, it's based on the buddy system - how much money did you contribute to my campaign.

dadx2mj · Post by **dadx2mj** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:14 pm

No doubt "cronyism" in politics is a bad thing but who are we fooling it is deeply rooted and has been a corn stone of politics for as long as we have had politics. Not like it is something new that Bush started or like Bush is any worse than any other Presidents we have had or will have.

Red Dawn · Post by **Red Dawn** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:43 pm

No doubt it's been an on going thing but one would think that for a position like Head of FEMA they'd give it to someone who was at least qualified to do the job. Having Mike Brown as head of FEMA is like making Rush Limbuagh the Surgeon General.

Lmandrake · Post by **Lmandrake** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:18 pm

No, its like making Rush Limbaugh the head of the DEA.

I think in this case, a President of either party would have a lot to answer to. Of course, those in his party would be pointing fingers at the city and the state too, especially when those in charge are from the other party.

This was a major f*** up and a clear example that less government is not always a good thing and that there are some things too big to be left to the states.