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cells cloned from dead baby

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:35 am
by TheManiacal1
this is just wrong...

as reported by thisislondon.com

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/12889336?source=PA

Doctor has cloned cells from dead baby
By Mark Prigg, Evening Standard Science Correspondent
31 August 2004

Controversial fertility specialist Panos Zavos today revealed plans to clone a dead baby.

The American doctor, who has been attacked for publicity seeking by British experts in the field, claims already to have carried out three experiments on tissues culled from dead human beings.

One involved a child of a one-and-a-half who had died during surgery.

For an undisclosed fee from the parents, Dr Zavos and his Kentucky team inserted genetic material from the child's skin cells into a cow egg, where they continued to grow. The resulting embryos were then terminated.

Tissues from a 33-year-old man, who died in unknown circumstances, and an 11 year old girl named Katie, who died in a traffic accident, were also used in the experiments.

Cells from the unnamed man produced viable embryos that could have been implanted into a surrogate mother, had they been created using a human egg, Dr Zavos said in London today.

"This was not about created a pregnancy, we are using cow eggs to refine our techniques. This is pure experimentation."

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:00 pm
by ShibasScotch
bastard

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:07 pm
by DoPeY5007
I think it is a good thing.


We will learn alot!

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:54 pm
by glassoftea
I think this is misplaced. You are going to have another human who looks like the first one, the one the cells were cloned from. I believe that the appearance may not be all that close due to environmental influences in the developmental process and the person will not be a carbon copy of the other with the same thoughts, ideas and feelings, at best I think it might be like creating a twin, someone who looks very similar but has their own mannerisms, thoughts and unique tributes. This is not the way to "bring-back" a lost love one.

glass

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:53 pm
by CaterpillarAssassin
absolutely right, glass. BUT!

what if it did create an almost perfect copy of looks? What if the personality's were strikingly similar (very possible barring possiblities of extreme mental trauma) I think it would be neat. Only thing that might be bad is when the kid grows up and realizes he is a clone of someone else. That would be some trauma. I can see it now...

next on jerry springer!
Twisted love triangle with 2 clones and there obese mother!

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:34 pm
by FlyingPenguin
This is the same asshat who claimed in the past to have cloned a human and no proof was ever offered.

He's probably talking out of his ass.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:47 am
by The_Frapster
Hmm, they will learn a lot true. I personally think that once they get how to record the human brain, they will be able to record from it, and copy it over to another one. Talk about mind control.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:10 am
by glassoftea
Frap,

You remind me of a sci fi short story I read years and years ago. A mother and a child were talking about the childs upcoming birthday and eventually the mother let the child know that when that day came the mother would move her brain into the childs body, as she (and the rest of civilization) had done for several thousands of years. Kind of neat story, could actually happen in a hundred years. Clone yourself and move your brain over once your body has matured, nobody would want to move thier brain in before puberty would they??? I know once through that was enough for me!

Glass

Re: cells cloned from dead baby

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:34 pm
by smb
Originally posted by TheManiacal1
this is just wrong...

as reported by thisislondon.com

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/12889336?source=PA

...
For an undisclosed fee from the parents, Dr Zavos and his Kentucky team inserted genetic material from the child's skin cells into a cow egg, where they continued to grow. The resulting embryos were then terminated....


They will be called "eggheads"

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:30 pm
by FlyingPenguin
I'm not the only one that doubts this idiot's claims:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3614256.stm