Islam, the religion of peace

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Islam, the religion of peace

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So they keep telling us...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/africa/11 ... index.html

<i>KADUNA, Nigeria -- Dozens have been killed in northern Nigeria in rioting that erupted after a newspaper suggested the Prophet Mohammad would have approved of the Miss World beauty contest.

The death toll in the town of Kaduna was an estimated 105 with a further 521 injured taken to hospital, aid workers said on Friday.

Angry mobs in the mainly-Muslim city 600 kilometres (375 miles) northwest of Lagos burnt Christian churches and rampaged through the streets stabbing, bludgeoning and burning bystanders to death.

Shops were looted, cars were overturned and scorched while makeshift barricades were set alight. Fires also burned in mosques and windows were smashed.



Shehu Sani of the Kaduna-based Civil Rights Congress told The Associated Press he watched a crowd stab a young man, force a petrol-filled tyre around his neck and burn him alive. Sani said he saw three other bodies elsewhere in the city.

Alsa Hassan, founder of another human rights group, Alsa Care, told AP he saw a commuter being dragged out of his car and beaten to death by protesters.

Schools and shops hurriedly closed as hordes of young men, shouting "Allahu Akhbar," or "God is great," ignited makeshift street barricades made of tires and garbage, sending plumes of black smoke rising above the city. Others were heard chanting, "Down with beauty" and "Miss World is sin." </i>

Miss World is sin


But killing innocent people and looting is not? :;



<i>Islamic fundamentalist groups had for months warned of protests against the Miss World pageant. </i>



Nothing like religious hypocrites. Yes we have enough of them here but at least they don't do all the killing some religions do.
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i know dude... when did "murdering" innocent bystanders count as a "RELIGIOUS PROTEST"???? :(

I don't wanna say all who follow the teachings of Islam are alike but when was the last time you saw a christian or any other religion for that matter chop off a guys head or go on killing rampages as a sign of PROTEST??

fu**ing NONSENSE!!!

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i just read that "christian" youths were also involved in alot of the violence as retaliation. i don't know what to say :( i guess it's the upbringing (on both sides/in a 3rd world country) that has alot to do with it.
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I just caught a little coverage on CNN while waiting for my car at the fixit place. Unreal.
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What this whole thing is about is forcing people to convert to Islam and having Islam to rule the world {Caliphate}. If people don't convert, then the infidels should be killed.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021118-86261805.htm
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Hey can we call Al Jazeera what it really is? The Official News Network of Al Quida...
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Then i guess those bastards can come right after me then :D
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Hey can we call Al Jazeera what it really is? The Official News Network of Al Quida
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Muslims must disavow Osama's message

When the audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden was released last week, the voice that threatened America's allies didn't issue its warning in the name of al-Qaeda. It didn't purport to speak for Iraq, Indonesia, Chechnya or the Palestinian territories. Though the voice listed them all, it spoke for what it called "the Muslim nation."

"As you assassinate," bin Laden said to the West, naming each of six countries in turn, from Australia to Great Britain, and from Canada to Italy, "so will you be assassinated. As you bomb so will you likewise be. So the Muslim nation begins to attack you with its children, who are committed before God to continue the jihad, by word and by the sword."

About two days later U.S. President George W. Bush also made a set of remarks as he began a meeting with UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

"By far, the vast majority of American citizens respect the Islamic people and the Muslim faith," Mr. Bush said, while dissociating his government from intemperate comments about Muslims made by some televangelists, whom Mr. Bush didn't name. The President probably referred to Pat Robertson who reportedly said recently that Muslims were "worse than the Nazis" or to Jerry Falwell who in a TV interview last month described the prophet Mohammed as a "terrorist."

"It is encouraging to hear President Bush address the issue of Islamophobic rhetoric in our society. We hope the President's rejection of anti-Muslim hate speech will be followed by similar statements from other elected officials and from mainstream religious leaders," commented Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) communications director Ibrahim Hooper.

No disagreement here. It's indeed encouraging for the general cause of peace and tolerance in the world that President Bush repudiates excessive or thoughtless statements and reaffirms fundamental Western values. But it would be equally reassuring for leaders of Islamic countries, from Egypt to Saudi Arabia, to have issued similar statements following the speech attributed to bin Laden.

It would have been reassuring to hear one or more major figures in the world of Islam say that "the vast majority of citizens of Muslim countries respect the American people and the Christian faith." Except this didn't happen. Nor did Mr. Hooper express the hope that it might happen. He didn't offer to repudiate what Osama bin Laden said while purporting to speak for the "Muslim nation." Mr. Hooper expected "other elected officials and mainstream religious leaders" to follow the President's example and declare that Pat Robertson and other televangelists don't speak for America, but he didn't offer to declare, or call on Muslim leaders to declare, that "bin Laden doesn't speak for Islam."

So what we're left with is bin Laden declaring that he speaks for the "Muslim nation," which now "begins to attack you with its children," without anybody saying: "No, bin Laden, you do not. You do not speak for the millions of peace-loving Muslims. You speak only for a handful of terrorists."

So far we've heard nothing from the millions of peace-loving Muslims. We heard nothing from their political leaders in Islamic countries. We heard nothing from their spiritual leaders, at home or in the West. We heard nothing from the spokespeople of CAIR. If it weren't for President Bush's assurance that millions of peace-loving Muslims exist, we wouldn't know it. They're silent, except when some exhort us, like Mr. Hooper, to keep declaring through our "elected officials and mainstream religious leaders" that Muslims are peace-loving.

I don't doubt that they are, only I wouldn't mind hearing it from them for a change. It was great to hear it from President Bush, but now I'd like to hear it from CAIR.

Whatever Pat Robertson said, he blew up nothing. However injudicious Jerry Falwell's remarks have been, he didn't threaten anyone with assassination. Robertson or Falwell cannot be mentioned in the same breath with Osama bin Laden -- yet as soon as they spoke, the President dissociated his government and his country from them. "I'll remind the Secretary-General," he said, "that our war against terror is a war against individuals whose hearts are full of hate. We do not fight a religion."

Did Muslim leaders, secular or religious, say anything to dissociate themselves and their faith from bin Laden when he declared his jihad against "the Crusaders and the Jews"? Did the ruler of a supposedly friendly Arab country, such as Saudi Arabia or Jordan, say, as Mr. Bush did, that "the comments that have been uttered do not reflect the sentiments of my government"?

When asked this question, Arab and Muslim commentators usually reply that (1) we have said it, and (2) why should we be obliged to say the obvious? The two replies are offered in the same breath, though reply no. 1 is negated by reply no. 2, and reply no 2. is worthless. On this test, President Bush shouldn't be obliged to say the obvious either -- i.e., that "ours is a country based upon tolerance" and that we won't let "terrorists cause us to change our values" -- yet he's not only saying it, but CAIR demands that he and other leaders should say it even louder and more often. They're right to demand it because in such situations the obvious isn't obvious unless it's stated loudly and often -- except this is no less true for CAIR than for President Bush. The difference is that Mr. Bush is actually saying it, while Muslim countries and communities say little beyond reiterating their own grievances.

Sorry. Reiterating grievances isn't enough to convince the world that bin Laden is only engaged in wishful thinking when he says he speaks for "the Muslim nation."
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Wow! They just shovel it out and you guys eat every bit right up. I'm not sorry to say this and if It get's me in hot water so what.Have any of you ever paid attention to worldly issues before CNN or the rest of the well paid talking heads rammed it down your throat or have you allways been this ignorant? I have to know 'cause I sure as hell don't understand why you people take everything you see on the news as God's word. Let's make it crystal clear.You are being lied too.It's that simple. Don't belive me? Ok. Why now? Why is Islam
or the muslems or a stick of Islamic Slammi for that matter so Importiant?
Because it serves as a focus of anger for the "southern republicans" to chew on thats why.It's handy to use and makes a great distraction for all. If you people get time try to look around the web at other papers with an oppisite point of view,I do and I weigh all of the reported "Facts" with the reality and I see how easy it is to sort the wheat from the chaff . George bushs' words aren't worth the air thier carried upon
just like his poppys. We will pay in the end not because were not any specfic
"Religion" but because we've been dumbed down and broke.
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Ok i've kept my mouth shut long enough. The media reports what they are told. I'm sure some of it might be lies coming from our Gov but i'm sure there is also a lot of it that is pure facts. Have you ever read the Al queda training manual? Pretty good read and will take a few hours to get through it. Gives a good idea how fucked up those people really are. And when i say those people i'm not talking the whole world wide muslim population. But who are you to come in here and spew your bullshit about everything being a giant conspiracy. Are you god himself to know this? Can you prove this? I don't think you can cause its all a big paranoia thats built up into your head. You don't know anything more than anyone else on this forum probably does. All those links on that other thread you shit all over in where the biggest crock of mulder and scully conspiracy bullshit that i have ever read. If your so fucking paranoid about the US Gov and its big conspiracy to cover everything up i suggest u move to right next door to Osama himself. If this country is so bad GET THE FUCK OUT! Your one of those people who sit back have no faith in our Gov bash them every chance you get, but your the first one standing in the welfare line for your free cheese and rice when your broke ass don't have a job. Seeing what you name is its no wonder why you think like you do. Why don't you take up a hobby that doesn't evolve around your computer and your conspiracy theory!!!
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Originally posted by Tomuchtime
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Hey man you better lay off that stuff. :lol

I'll put my knowledge of worldly issues against yours any day. :p

What makes you so sure that other sources of news and info like http://www.yellowtimes.org aren't checked out? What makes you so positive that we take everything seen on the news as God's word? What makes you so confident that you know everything? Ever consider the fact you are being lied to and your gobbling it up? Image

Bill croaked out the following: "Why is Islam or the muslems or a stick of Islamic Slammi for that matter so Importiant?" Duh! Cause radical Muslims are killing people. )*

Is it ignorant to know that it was Islamic fanatics blew up Aussie tourists in Bali? Was it a lie that Islamic terrorists flew planes into buildings killing thousands? Oh I forgot those aren't facts and were done by southern republicans to distract the attention of sheepeople. Last time I checked it wasn't them who dumbed down society and the government run school system. Thats been happening for decades.

"George bushs' words aren't worth the air thier carried upon just like his poppys." Are yours?

If we don't stop these murdering scumbucket sob's, we will pay in blood.
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Damn pred, how do you really feel? :|
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If you people get time try to look around the web at other papers with an oppisite point of view,I do and I weigh all of the reported "Facts"


"The other papers"? You mean the ones backed by the terrorists and/or the one sympathetic towards them, don't you. Yeah we are suppose to believe anything they say, where if they don't say things backing the terrorist thinking, they die; and not believe what's written in a country that has free press. duh

The facts are there in black and white, anyone who lets them be mind controlled by that clearly twisted Islamic thinking is one weak-minded ignorant stupe.

Let's see, where to even begin. Islam is a religion that teach's it's ok to kill anyone who doesn't believe as they do. They make it ok by calling it a jhad, or "holy war". Holy war? wtf, they murder many innocent people in horrible ways and they believe that's ok simply by calling is holy?

And in Nigeria they horribly kill many innocent people just because they are upset about a beauty contest. jeeeeeeeeeezus!

175 are dead now, and over what? The contest was moved to another country.
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Total and complete whackos is what they are. Wake up toomuch, it isn't too late for you yet. You are the one letting yourself be mind controlled. You need to get that "poop" out of your brain.

i just read that "christian" youths were also involved in alot of the violence as retaliation.


You betchya. If they did that to people around here many of us would retaliate bigtime! :)
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